Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

Post by j0ba » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:37 AM UTC

devwastaken wrote: post #53

Freedom of speech is also freedom from compelled speech. This kind of law means the government can compel any private party to speak what they want and punish them for not doing so. This is also demonstrably damaging to the effected party. It costs money to host content. Forcing a business to host content costs them - is poland going to fund this? No. If the polish government has a problem with it then they should ma…

Post by j4yav » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:45 AM UTC

notadev wrote: post #280

nitwit005 wrote: post #121

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Yes, the timing matched with the negative media attention, similar to the removals of a few Trump subreddits recently.

This has already been weaponized by subs like /r/AgainstHateSubs and other vigilante-like subs. Their tactics usually involve posting in those subreddits from sockpuppet accounts, using hateful or threatening messages. The few times the targeted subs mods aren't on the ball, they mass report the post for hate speech to try and get the sub banned, or the mods banned then later request the subreddit for themselves, som…

Post by viraptor » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:46 AM UTC

cygx wrote: post #195

stretchcat wrote: post #136

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There are some who like to call Nazi death camps 'Polish death camps' because they were located in Nazi occupied Poland. This, of course, is frowned on by Poland. It is seen as a way of blaming Poland for Germany's crimes, while the people who do it play innocent and claim they are merely stating 'true facts' about the locations of the camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Polish_death_camp"_controvers...

Note the last part of that article, though[1]: You're also not allowed to refer to camps like Zgoda or Jaworzno - which were labour camps operated by poles on behalf of the communist regime - as 'Polish concentration camps'. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Polish_death_camp%22_contro...

Post by numpad0 » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:50 AM UTC

enkid wrote: post #253

commandlinefan wrote: post #165

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> I agree to follow the rules of your service You have to be careful there, too, though: Amazon is claiming that Parler (to use the most currently relevant example) did violate their terms of service, because their terms of service are so vague and broad that they can be used to apply to almost anything.

I haven't used Parler, but from what I read there were loads of people actively calling for violence. Sure, there's no set line, but Amazon shouldn't have to support that if they don't want to.

Post by numpad0 » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:55 AM UTC

function_seven wrote: post #277

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I don't see that as a good counter example. That sort of content should be illegal anyway.

That's exactly what makes it a great example. If we accept the premise that /r/jailbait was not illegal (but "merely" reprehensible), then under this new law, Reddit would have been breaking the law when they decided to ban the subreddit.