Those of you praising Proton, what distro and what gpu are you using? Are the days of nVidia bad, AMD good for driver support over?
Ubuntu 18.04 with GTX1070. Used the drivers that came with the OS and I might go play some Hellblade in a moment
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#292Windows backward compatibility and gaming might not keep it in the game if arm and m1 start to get really big traction. The performance advantage is there.
Arm may be too late for the ps5 gen but is there any question that ps6 gen won't be an arm SOC?
And I wonder if apple will launch m1 as a gaming console.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not op, but I think the biggest miss in cloud gaming is no one developing cloud first multiplayer games. Currently in any kind of client-server multiplayer game out there you face n+1 game states (n is the number of players) and a lot of the art is in how to reconcile these. The n+1 is due to most games implementing some degree of client autonomy (e.g. in movement), and the reality of network round trips from each cl…
This is actually one of the selling points Google brought up at the original Stadia announcement: you can't pirate or cheat in Stadia games since it's just an interactive video feed. Of course, most people who play games don't like that - including myself.
You definitely can cheat with Stadia, the earliest public Overwatch aimbots were just AutoHotKey scripts that detected pixels on screen and would adjust your aim so as to not make you look like an obvious cheater.
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#294Gaming on Linux has been so fucking good. I switched from Windows to Linux a month ago and literally haven’t found a game I can’t play. Even Red Dead Redemption 2, Hades, Fallen Jedi, Ghostrunner... Oh the really icing on the cake is just how easy it all is. You literally just install the Windows version and things “just work.” Its amazing. I’ve said this a lot of times now but it’s pretty amazing to write code and p…
My issue usually has been with random indie games just refusing to work. Like Party Animals, which either refused to launch for me or my friends or had horrible performance. Among Us as well.
Also any multiplayer competitive games that use anti-cheats are impossible to play. Valorant, for example.
IMO it is well worth it to maintain a dualboot for windows games.
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Maybe that trade-off should be more flexible and dependent on the "league" a given player wants to play in. The criteria could be more strict for the "pros" where cheating can lead to significant gains, like professional athletes who have to pass regular anti-doping tests, but you wouldn't expect the same invasive checks from (for example) people participating in a charity run.
The problem with your idea is that nobody wants to play with cheaters. Everything that makes the game fun is defeated by a single cheater. So people are just going to choose between playing with 0 cheaters or go play a different game.
Good point, I haven't played games much since the late 90s and I'm returning to gaming only now (partially thanks to Proton), so my experience with multi-player is based mostly on modem or LAN parties with friends, where the social aspect helped to prevent cheating. I guess it's very different now when you can play with random people on the other side of the world.
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#296Recent convert to Linux gaming here. A small tip to any other potential new linux gamers - if you encounter painful input lag, check that Vsync is turned off! For some odd reason, Vsync on Linux feels much much much worse to me than on Windows.
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I was seriously considering adding Linux support for my game, that already has turn-based multiplayer, and this thread was the last thing I needed to convince myself it could work. Performance may be an issue. I wonder if people would be ok with electron games sold on steam running on linux...
Linux gamer here. I spend a lot of money on the steam store.
Now you have to tell us how much money so we have an idea what unixhero boldly confesses on a forum where the A+ players hangout.
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#298I switched back from Pop!_OS about a month ago, after nearly a year of using it exclusively. My previous laptop broke, so I got a new one. Of course I immediately created a Pop! partition and started installing stuff. I tried Doom Eternal... and it was running extremely slow for what you'd expect from a RTX 2080. Surely enough, I switched to my Windows 10 partition and the game ran smooth like butter over there. I sp…
I'm a bit skeptical of all the positivity here. Heck if I can't edit mouse acceleration with ease, how hard is it going to be to watch Netflix? Do I need to downgrade chromium to 30.4 just to install some plugin incompatible with the v32 chromium? These are real issues that you'd expect Ubuntu to have working from defaults. I'm not asking for every porn website to work, but all FAANG websites to work.
This line is getting really boring, especially on HN, which should be at least a bit more tech savvy than the regular forum.
I got a laptop. Removed it from the box. Installed Ubuntu, tweaked the dock drivers a bit. Everything works as it would on a Windows machine and no I don't need to downgrade Chrome to have Netflix, Spotify, Facebook, HBO or whatever work. Zero, zero compatibility issues and I can't be the only one since millions of people use Linux daily.
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#299I wouldn't mind dual-booting but I strongly prefer having independent physical devices for each OS. The way that the bootloaders can try to clobber one another can result in frustrating breakage. Unfortunately my MSI board's BIOS doesn't seem have support for enable/disable the SATA or NVMe controller. I'd gladly take a recommendation of a micro-ITX board that does. This kind of thing doesn't make the spec sheet.
You can do it with 2 disks. You just need to unplug the Linux disk while installing windows. If you then make Linux the primary boot disk in bios, grub re-maps the drives so when booting Windows, it thinks it is the primary drive and never re-writes the Linux boot loader. I did that for years without issue.
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It's none of the game's business what other software my computer is running. These checks have in the past been notoriously buggy, and can interfere with other operations. This kind of crud is what remote attestation is for, and Microsoft should be responsible for developing it, not every different gaming company competing with each other for kernel access.
> It's none of the game's business what other software my computer is running. I get the sentiment here but we're specifically talking about a mechanism specifically designed to detect other software that is used for cheating. The alternative is a world where games will only run on machines with SecureBoot, a signed kernel with kernel security on, and only whitelisted signed modules. There isn't a good solution for h…
Maybe the game servers could not send the whole game state to each client and validate input it receives from each client? Banning blatant aimbots is just a pure statistics thing. Also, you could just train ai to detect patterns of cheating via an adversarial model where you pit normal ai against ai that uses the cheats you currently detect via rootkits.
Games should not be part of my ring 0.