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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

Modern anticheats are basically kernel rootkits which go even to the point of trying to checksum your drivers and inspect how they work. They're basically as invasive as they get. They obviously can't hook into Linux kernel so they react by just banning the player.

Now I'm biased because I'm an anti-cheat developer, but I really can't see how checking the integrity of your installed kernel device drivers is at all invasive.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #48

I switched back from Pop!_OS about a month ago, after nearly a year of using it exclusively. My previous laptop broke, so I got a new one. Of course I immediately created a Pop! partition and started installing stuff. I tried Doom Eternal... and it was running extremely slow for what you'd expect from a RTX 2080. Surely enough, I switched to my Windows 10 partition and the game ran smooth like butter over there. I sp…

I'm a bit skeptical of all the positivity here. Heck if I can't edit mouse acceleration with ease, how hard is it going to be to watch Netflix? Do I need to downgrade chromium to 30.4 just to install some plugin incompatible with the v32 chromium? These are real issues that you'd expect Ubuntu to have working from defaults. I'm not asking for every porn website to work, but all FAANG websites to work.

Netflix works, at least in Firefox.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #67

I wonder if they've looked into to doing the same on Mac. Just ship some Wine like shim.

I’m wondering the same thing, wine works well on the Mac, and Porting Kit and Play On Mac are basically volunteer efforts at the same thing (custom versions of Wine for playing games) and work pretty well for slightly older games.

I re-played Fallout 3 and New Vegas this year using Porting Kit but had to dual boot into Windows to play 4.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Can you use Proton for games you've purchased on GOG? I've been funneling more (not all) of my purchases to the DRM-free store front lately.

Afaik GOG even release patches for some games so they work in Wine.

(Which however didn't help me on an older Mac, as Wine gaming seems to be sensitive to hardware and drivers.)

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #10

Real pending question is will Cyberpunk work on linux?

Cyberpunk is a DX12-only title, isn't DX12 under Proton still relatively immature?

Death Stranding was another recent DX12 release and it looks like Proton struggles with it

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

What distro do you use?

PopOS

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

How does Stadia strike you as an alternative? It works on anything (AFAIK) that runs Chrome.

Cloud gaming is just not really good enough for me for fast paced games.

I've tried GeForce Now, Stadia, and Shadow. So far GFN is my favorite and Shadow is my least favorite but tbf I'm not in the proper region for Shadow.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern anticheats are basically kernel rootkits which go even to the point of trying to checksum your drivers and inspect how they work. They're basically as invasive as they get. They obviously can't hook into Linux kernel so they react by just banning the player.

Now I'm biased because I'm an anti-cheat developer, but I really can't see how checking the integrity of your installed kernel device drivers is at all invasive.

It's none of the game's business what other software my computer is running.

These checks have in the past been notoriously buggy, and can interfere with other operations.

This kind of crud is what remote attestation is for, and Microsoft should be responsible for developing it, not every different gaming company competing with each other for kernel access.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern anticheats are basically kernel rootkits which go even to the point of trying to checksum your drivers and inspect how they work. They're basically as invasive as they get. They obviously can't hook into Linux kernel so they react by just banning the player.

Now I'm biased because I'm an anti-cheat developer, but I really can't see how checking the integrity of your installed kernel device drivers is at all invasive.

That's one of the less invasive things, but I also don't see why a game needs to know what drivers I have.

Hence I just stay away from AAA games with anti cheat at this point.

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