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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by viraptor »

_Microft wrote: post #151
dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I'm a longtime lurker on Twitter, the list of people I follow is well-curated. If someone looks like they cause me more trouble than insights, I unfollow or even block them with little hesitation. In this form, Twitter is working great for me. Needless to say that I stay away from politics (and related topics) as much as possible.

I tried that hard for quite some time but never managed to get a purely on-topic timeline. Follow 10 experts who post mostly about topic X and you'll constantly find at least one of them posting something different at any point.

For example you can't subscribe to grugq for political-infosec content without some IRA memes. And I don't mean that other people shouldn't post stuff they want, just that I'd like to see a filtered view of their posts most of the time. After a few iterations I gave up Twitter almost completely.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by renewiltord »

forest_dweller wrote: post #149
renewiltord wrote: post #70

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

> No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. I don't think that is representative of users of Parler. I would agree with you if you said Gab. This may surprise you but the vast vast majority people are joking about the likes of the lizard people. It is a bit of fun because of ho…

Nah, I don't need large news organizations to do anything. If you walked up to me today and gave me the latest spiel about how Kamala Harris was born in Kenya to a two-headed alligator man, I'm going to walk away.

Online it's not so easy to walk away, so I prefer that you have alligator man conversations with other alligator man enthusiasts.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by AntiImperialist »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #169
disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whatever you open to the public will be infiltrated by the enemy. Can you explain what you mean by this? I wouldn't have thought that the average user of social media had that many enemies, but i could be wrong.

Especially considering that all of these failed not because they were infiltrated by "the left", but because they're now a haven for literal nazis.

Agent provocateurs are used to supress online communities just like they're used to supress physical protests.

In fact, one can do much more damage to an online community, specially if it can have anonymous users.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Biganon »

throwaway122378 wrote: post #7

In a group chat one friend asked if they’ve heard about Parler. Another responded “Yeah it’s a new app for right wing circle jerk” That alone is the reason Parler exist. Anything that goes against the views of the liberal left is automatically deemed trash/conspiracy.

Please go read voat's frontpage and then tell us it's a healthy place. Parler will become the exact same cesspool.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

wernercd wrote: post #123
joshuamorton wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, it’s not like Clinton didn’t spend four years “disputing ... democracy.” See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trum ... I don't believe Clinton ever attacked the integrity of the election process itself. She did claim (and as far as I'm aware the investigations more or less supported the claims) that the Trump campaign colluded with foreign governments to influence the election.

"colluded with foreign governments" Russia Collusion itself is an attack on the legitimacy of Trumps presidency - just like election fraud is an attack on the legitimacy of a Biden presidency.

This is actually true (god I hate agreeing with Trump/the GOP).

Collusion was not proven, and the left-wing media went completely overboard on this.

Did Russia want Hillary Clinton to lose? Yes.

Did the Trump campaign meet with Russian operatives? Yes.

Did they collude with Russians? No, not in a legal sense.

Was the determining factor in the election Russian interference? No, it was almost certainly the NYT covering the James Comey investigation into Hillary's emails in the last week.

Mind you, if I were a Russian disinformation specialist, I would be very proud of how the American people took up my insanities (on both sides) and ran with them.

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Post by julienreszka »

pestaa wrote: post #137
julienreszka wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

America was created by people who fled persecution, and turned out pretty well. It is the most attractive country on earth. What are you talking about?

Most attractive country? This is the particular crap only an American would say.

I'm not American, I'm French. Just look at how many people are asking for visa to get there

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Biganon »

exogeny wrote: post #170
julienreszka wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spam and flood is not speech it's noise preventing people from having actual conversations.

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Every forum needs human moderation, but that doesn't imply that this moderation cannot be done in good or bad faith. Just like a good judge is not congruent to a big, deterministic computer.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by askl56 »

refurb wrote: post #144
Siira wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they “verifiable” falsehoods? E.g., conspiracy theories are famous for being almost always unfalsifiable. These views usually are a mix of low prior hypotheses, politically incorrect semi-truths, marketing propaganda (with few empirical assertions), and lies.

"The NSA is secretly monitoring all communications on the internet" That would have easily been labeled misinformation and disinformation 10 years ago.

Likewise with the Jeffrey Epstein story.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by cblconfederate »

dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

It s still a good way to follow current events by following specific people or journalists.

Switching to chronological mode, aggressively unfollowing the rude people who think that their technical knowledge allows them to plaster their opinions on your face, and changing my location to burundi did it for me.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by deadalus »

AntiImperialist wrote: post #153

As much as I would like to see this happen, I don't think it is going to happen this time around either... or ever. We've seen this movie before. Minds, Gab, Patreon alternatives, Voat, all of this has been done with no success. Whatever you open to the public will be infiltrated by the enemy. I think the new model is to do it secretly in closed groups away from the public, preferably local groups where you meet with…

Patreon alternative Subscribestar is absolutely huge with many big-name content creators using it.
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