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Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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I am more interested in Parler's business model moving forward.

One reason of censorship becomes so prevailing is because of advertising. The advertisers ultimately defines what is 'toxic' and what not.

If Parler can stick to its current path and manage to survive, it would pretty significant to the internet ecosystem.

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post #109

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

To be fair, I've largely stopped using twitter due to the incessant politics, pretty much what you described above but just in a different flavor. Ironically manipulating elections was one of those "incessant" topics, however it was all coming from a completely different crowd then (around when I left). I also remember seeing a ton of racism against whites and (ironically) anti-semitic comments and conspiracies that…

I use Twitter quite a bit and there's no politics on it. Mostly AI stuff and the musings of my friends. Twitter only gives you stuff from people you follow and one level past.

Of course not using it is a good option but ultimately what you get from Twitter is what you put in.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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As much as I would like to see this happen, I don't think it is going to happen this time around either... or ever. We've seen this movie before. Minds, Gab, Patreon alternatives, Voat, all of this has been done with no success. Whatever you open to the public will be infiltrated by the enemy. I think the new model is to do it secretly in closed groups away from the public, preferably local groups where you meet with…

> Whatever you open to the public will be infiltrated by the enemy.

Can you explain what you mean by this? I wouldn't have thought that the average user of social media had that many enemies, but i could be wrong.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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post #112

No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

That is a nice conspiracy theory, what is your parler handle?

My lizardmen handlers have instructed me not to tell you lest I give away their presence.

Then they instructed me to tell you this so that it would cast ridicule on the notion of lizardmen overlords.

And they then instructed me to do that last one to sow confusion.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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It will go the same way as its direct predecessor Gab.ai, Voat and other "alternatives for conservatives" - it ends up as a self radicalizing Nazi hole, as no one except right-wingers wants to be on a network dominated by right-wingers.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Are there any good information how advertising works in this network? From my experience its easy to convince "free-speechers" to buy things - think gold investment, self defense equipment, prepping, everything with the US flag colours on it.

Parler isn’t a tech startup like any other. It’s unlikely to ever be profitable. Why Mercer and others think it’s a good idea to plow money into it is the question.

So just like most consumer tech startups then?

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I think it’s down to who you follow. First, never ever read “trends” or random tweets. Never trust Twitters official app to show you anything useful. Using third party apps also saves you from ads. Second and most importantly, follow a set of users that are interesting, friendly, and who don’t engage publicly with trolls. It’s a magnificent tool for staying up to date with a narrow topic like a niche technology. Just…

Block early, block often. Think twice before following someone.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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1. Tech platforms are uncomfortable with certain viewpoints expressed on their platforms and seek to limit these viewpoints. 2. Instead of changing people’s minds (isn’t the evidence overwhelmingly conclusive that people rarely change political viewpoints?), people flock to “community bubbles” like Parler, TheDonald, etc where they feel welcome. 3. This marginalisation leads to increasing extremism; going from the li…

This is certainly a line of thinking. Of course the alternative is: 1. Tech platforms were too slow with limiting extremist viewpoints 2. Instead of keeping extremist views isolated, this allowed them to pick up more support. These groups continue to move more and more extreme, and more popular. 3. Delays in taking action to prevent the spread of these views allowed the combination of extremism and popular support th…

I agreed with you until the last paragraph, where it became clear that your problem isn’t with extreme views in general, just the sort of extreme views Trump is likely to endorse. That’s exactly the bias that people behind Parler aim to exploit (or provide an escape from, depending on your view)

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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As much as I would like to see this happen, I don't think it is going to happen this time around either... or ever. We've seen this movie before. Minds, Gab, Patreon alternatives, Voat, all of this has been done with no success. Whatever you open to the public will be infiltrated by the enemy. I think the new model is to do it secretly in closed groups away from the public, preferably local groups where you meet with…

> Whatever you open to the public will be infiltrated by the enemy. Can you explain what you mean by this? I wouldn't have thought that the average user of social media had that many enemies, but i could be wrong.

Especially considering that all of these failed not because they were infiltrated by "the left", but because they're now a haven for literal nazis.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter what they were banned for, it's still hypocritical for a platform apparently based around "free speech" to ban people for speech they don't agree with.

Spam and flood is not speech it's noise preventing people from having actual conversations.

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