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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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There's a famous optical illusion with a spinning silhouette of a dancer. When you look at it, you'll swear it's spinning in one direction -- say, counter-clockwise. In fact, you'll be so sure it's spinning counter-clockwise, that the idea it could be spinning in the opposite direction will seem impossible to you. But if you stare at it long enough, and intently enough, you can make it spin the other way. I've notice…

I'm not American but my non-political echo chambers have gotten quite political. Chess, Infosec, Atheism, philosophy, reddit, etc HATE trump for example. Then I have other echo chambers that tend to love Trump. Personally I'm neither side as I'm not American. I also enjoy looking at both sides and it's remarkable how different the viewpoints really are. The echo chambers worked exactly as expected, those places that hated trump only hear about things that are terrible about trump. Nothing negative about Biden at any point. Every single Gaffe by Biden was portrayed as completely fake as deepfakes or old footage dubbed over etc.

Generally speaking my echo chambers leaned anti-trump. The one thing I failed to find in the last 2 months is any actual discourse. There is absolutely no neutral viewpoints. There is absolutely no discussions between the 2 camps. The political divide in the USA is worse than I have ever seen it.

The perception I have, that wasn't a free and fair election. What's even more curious is that nobody seems to care. Ends justify the means. Which hey, I personally very much prefer Trump to lose. However, if healing the political divide is a goal, that's basically impossible now.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Its far from over. Has anyone compared the people on the legal team that Bush used to beat Gore with the current Supreme Court justices? 4D chess. Thats how he plays.

"Throwing every legal challenge at the wall to see what sticks" isn't exactly 4D chess. He's batting a little over 50% right now on even having cases heard, much less victories; a little under half of what's been filed, the courts have either already found against his campaign or summarily dismissed for being too half-baked to waste court time on.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/supreme-court-trump...

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#993

To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…

Agreed. This is why we need to push voting in the primaries

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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As a Canadian, what stands out for me about the last two elections is that many Americans seem to desperately want a variety of political reforms, but neither party seems interested in providing them. Trump and Sanders both sold themselves as reform candidates in 2016, but only Trump wound up on the ticket. Sanders might be the real deal, but he's not going to represent a major party until donation and campaign spend…

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One candidate supports separating children from their families for certain groups of illegal immigrants, kept those children in cages for some time, and has since lost track of around 500 of them; not reuiniting them with their families. This has all been extensively documented. And approximately seventy million people have voted for that candidate. Okay, so with all of that in mind, please provide the nuance you wan…

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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#997

Trump and the MAGA crowd are absolutely fine with things like separating kids from their parents, forced sterilization, intense racism, celebrating and stimulating police violence, attempting to steal elections, open corruption by a sitting president and much much more. And yet you go “gosh darn that foreign interference is causing leftist ideas”. Maybe you should take a series look at your media consumption because…

Please don't do political flamewar on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#998

There's a famous optical illusion with a spinning silhouette of a dancer. When you look at it, you'll swear it's spinning in one direction -- say, counter-clockwise. In fact, you'll be so sure it's spinning counter-clockwise, that the idea it could be spinning in the opposite direction will seem impossible to you. But if you stare at it long enough, and intently enough, you can make it spin the other way. I've notice…

I really, truly, would like to believe both of the major political parties in the US have reasonably good intentions. It makes logical sense—how can half of the entire population be mostly wrong, and the rest mostly right?

But then I always remember that in the United States, there is only one major political party that believes Climate Change is real. The other party believes the phenomenon is some sort of gigantic ruse.

I consider Climate Change the most pressing issue of our time, and myself a single-issue voter. Not because everything else is unimportant, but because Climate Change is even more important. We have to get this right, and we have to start immediately!

If the two parties disagreed on how to address Climate Change—say, with a carbon tax versus renewable energy subsidies—that would be one thing. But that's not the world we live in. As long as one of the parties insists that Climate Change is a complete fabrication, I don't see how I can possibly take anything they say seriously.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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FTX [0] has President Trump's chances at remaining President in February 2021 at a little over 10%. Numerous legal pathways remain for President Trump to win. https://ftx.com/trade/TRUMPFEB

TRUMPFEB temporarily dropped as low as $0.07 and has hovered around $0.10 to $0.11 for a while.

It rallied to almost $0.16 a few hours ago amid a lot of buying volume and now it's steadying at $0.14

I can't see Trump getting all four recounts he needs even if some invalid votes are removed.

What do people know that I don't?

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