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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by quetzthecoatl »

loufe wrote: post #301
cmonnow wrote: post #218

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Where did India get into the picture here ? The only protests going in India are those which are against government initiatives to help minorities. Interestingly, you didn't mention Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc. where minorities are actually being killed, raped or converted.

You're kidding, right? Google "India oppression" and I guarantee you'll see several links towards what's going on in India-controlled Kashmir.

Google flat earth. It's sad seeing pakistan funded jihadi narrative getting such acceptance. India should deal with jihadi terrorists who raped, murdered the Hindu pandits in thousands and made half a million of them refugees in their own country with an iron hand. Pak sponsored terrorists who want to establish Islamic state should be dealt in appropriate manner with the full might of Indian state. No compromise.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by quetzthecoatl »

morelisp wrote: post #238
cmonnow wrote: post #218

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Where did India get into the picture here ? The only protests going in India are those which are against government initiatives to help minorities. Interestingly, you didn't mention Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc. where minorities are actually being killed, raped or converted.

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And you are a nazi pedophile. See anybody can do this.

Modi is the first politician since independent Indian republic's inception who represents the Hindu lower class - the poor and oppressed for centuries. The ruling class (Hindu upper castes, Muslims and Christians) has not hidden their disgust at losing power for the first time in about a thousand years. The manufactured propaganda without any specifics but full of adjectives are a derivative of that. Go suck on a lemon nazi pedo.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

ng12 wrote: post #427
lordnacho wrote: post #362

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The real issue is that we don't care to hurt ourselves enough in punishing the Chinese. If they were some minor country that supplied all the world's bananas someone could potentially put together something like that, and we'd all live without bananas for a while. But China makes just about everything, and not just cheap and simple stuff anymore. In game theory (and experiments with real people) sometimes it makes se…

Even on HN all anyone could talk about was how Trump's Trade War was hurting the economy. I thought the trade war was poorly executed but at the same time at least he was doing _something_.

He pulled out of the TPP which was fairly explicitly about containing China.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

Which was failry explicirly aboit containing China.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by apexalpha »

csomar wrote: post #367
sizzle wrote: post #260

"Twenty-four hours a day, prisoners are shackled. Iron chains are tied around their necks, fixed to loose iron blocks that Ӧmir says weigh around eight to ten kilograms, forcing prisoners to always be hunched down. He believes this is just one of the ways in which the camps are designed to instill a submissive posture in prisoners vis-a-vis their captors." I'm at a loss for words at the barbaric and utterly inhumane…

> towards their citizens It's right there. They are Han Chinese and don't consider the Uighurs as their citizens or blood-brothers.

Well the CCCP also had no problem performing forced abortions on their Han Chinese citizens. Sometimes in the 8th month of a pregnancy... All for the one child policy.

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Post by pjc50 »

juiyout wrote: post #409
pjc50 wrote: post #273

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That would cost Amazon money. Besides, the rules around country of origin are complicated, and some countries have product description law about this. And what's to stop Amazon sellers sticking fake country of origin on, as they can already do for CE marking? Or the reverse: Amazon stick a China flag on iPhones. Apple are going to get extremely upset about this and sue/offer money to change that to a US flag. The htt…

Amazon could do A-B tests on this. This might just earn them more money instead.

How do they get the information, though? Oblige resellers to put it on? Who then proceed to lie about it? It's just the "fake commingling" problem all over again.

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Post by mxmilkb »

hcurtiss wrote: post #476
tremon wrote: post #426

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our practices in war have always stood out as more humane than the other side Ok, then convince your side to submit to the UN-appointed war crimes tribunal in The Hague. As long as the The Hague Invasion Act is still in force, that claim is hollow.

Just as soon as China does.

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Post by coldtea »

baybal2 wrote: post #332
coldtea wrote: post #89

Here's the realpolitik deal, as I understand it. China doesn't really care about terrorism. What they do care for is a separatism movement. Not because they can't afford to give some land to those to make their own country, but because they fear that that country (or the population within China's borders if no country is created) will be used against them from foreign powers as a pressure point against China. Which i…

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>Do you also genuinely believe think Hitler Adolph was gassing Jewish people out of a real concern for sneaky backstabbing, and Stalin Joseph did the same to many more nations he purged? Punch yourself in the face, get real.

Yes, Hitler did have a concern for "sneaky backstabbing" - as did most Germans after losing WWI. It even has a name, Dolchstoßlegenden. It wasn't a correct idea, and it was doubly incorrect to pin it to the Jews, but there's no great dispute that both officials and people believed it.

Does it come a surprise to you that Hitler was actually an antisemite? Did you think he mearly killed 6+ million people as an excuse to come to power while not believing it (not to mention he was already in power when he put that in process).

So, no, it wasn't just a "convenient scapegoat". People did (and do) believe those things, including leaders. Including racist, imprisoned, and disillusioned by a war defeat leaders.

In fact not just Hitler, but tons of people all across Europe, the US, Russia, etc, believed in such "jewish" plots, and still do, which is what fed the pogroms for example.

As for Stalin, he was indeed concerned of separatism from USSR, and he did want to have a good hold on Ukraine as it was an important food producing area.

>Do you think that Xi, and Co. give any real f..k for feeling of Han Chinese? Get real.

Yes. But then again, I don't believe in cartoonish evil characters.

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Post by throw51319 »

spaetzleesser wrote: post #480
throw51319 wrote: post #296

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What kind of fool would vote 3rd party in an election with the gravity of this one? This isn't the time to make some symbolic stand, it's time to vote Trump out - if that's what you believe in.

I am making a stand to not support either of the corrupt big parties in the US. I can't vote for one guy only because the other guy is bad. The democrats should have put up a candidate people actually want to vote for. They didn't do that either in 2016 or 2020. Not being Trump is not a good program.

Biden is fine, he'll return decision-making to normalcy and be a one term President. Then we can try 2 new candidates in 4 years. Imagine the next 4 years with Biden and then with Trump. Which one seems less erratic and dangerous?

Your point is being wasted, and another 4 regressive years of Trump all because you wanted to make a point that won't be heeded or come through at all.

How about the 3rd parties field a candidate people actually want to vote for? Not some fringe ideology.

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Post by throw51319 »

eloff wrote: post #487
spaetzleesser wrote: post #480

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I am making a stand to not support either of the corrupt big parties in the US. I can't vote for one guy only because the other guy is bad. The democrats should have put up a candidate people actually want to vote for. They didn't do that either in 2016 or 2020. Not being Trump is not a good program.

Do the Democratic party have their collective heads in the sand? What were they thinking putting forward Biden. If they lose this election it's because they threw it. All they had to do was field anyone in good health (Biden isn't) who wasn't widely detested and they would have had it in the bag. The party system in the US leaves so much to be desired.

Hey I liked Buttigieg. But the whole point is the party system creates a coalition. Who better represents your worldview? Vote for that person.

Trump's worldview is destructive and idiotic, so then vote for his opponent.

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Post by _-david-_ »

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #457
marsrover wrote: post #364

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One of the reasons I voted for him this time, even though I didn't in 2016.

Maybe next year Trump will break up my gay marriage and make it illegal for me to get the medicine I'm on. Nothing like a little down-home American human rights abuses. He can't even condemn a terrorist group when asked directly to.

>Trump will break up my gay marriage

Trump is first president to come into office already supporting gay marriage.

>make it illegal for me to get the medicine I'm on

You are going to need to explain this since as far as I can tell Trump has not attempted to make any medicine illegal.

>Nothing like a little down-home American human rights abuses

Will you explain this one as well?

> He can't even condemn a terrorist group when asked directly to.

Trump has denounced white supremcy like 20 times.

https://thepostmillennial.com/over-20-times-trump-publicly-d...

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