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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Post by crispyporkbites »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #270
crispyporkbites wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any Amazon engineers want to comment on why a country of origin flag is not on every product? Has this been discussed internally at Amazon?

Probably because it only serves to hurt their sales. Amazon has also become almost as bad as Alibaba in allowing counterfeit and knockoff items to be sold openly.

Wouldn’t it push people to higher cost and higher margin products (locally made or from more ethical sources) and thereby increase their profits? Seems to me like you could make a strong case for it

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Post by bigbubba »

crocal wrote: post #189
ghoomketu wrote: post #176

I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.

How would the UN giving people asylum work? AFAIK the only territories administered by the UN are in Syria, Kosovo and Cyprus. I don't think they'd send asylum seekers there..

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Post by pjc50 »

crispyporkbites wrote: post #250
bhaskara2 wrote: post #202

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

Any Amazon engineers want to comment on why a country of origin flag is not on every product? Has this been discussed internally at Amazon?

That would cost Amazon money.

Besides, the rules around country of origin are complicated, and some countries have product description law about this. And what's to stop Amazon sellers sticking fake country of origin on, as they can already do for CE marking?

Or the reverse: Amazon stick a China flag on iPhones. Apple are going to get extremely upset about this and sue/offer money to change that to a US flag.

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Anti-Boycott_Act may make it illegal to force Israeli sellers to identify their country of origin.

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Post by 29athrowaway »

This article only touches the surface on how bad it is.

Read about what they do to women, what they're doing in their temples, etc. And the surveillance too.

To buy a kitchen knife, they have to engrave it with a barcode which registers the knife to their name.

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Post by gremlinsinc »

brianhorakh wrote: post #212
ghoomketu wrote: post #176

I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

Educate yourself. Reddit r/sino is a great place to read the opposition. There are ALWAYs two sides to these stories. Many are fabricated to apply for diplomatic immunity. Uighers represent a very small minority of the overall Chinese population, but almost all domestic terrorism (when the campaign against their culture started in 2014). Yes, their religious culture is being attacked, yes many (most) are good people,…

So, you're saying assimilate or die? What is this humanity or the borg collective?

Seriously, this is some black-mirror take on how society should function. Fascism doesn't even begin to cut it:

Fit in, or die. Be the same as everyone else or die. No originality allowed or die. Sounds like a lovely world you envision living in.

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Post by TheKarateKid »

cblum wrote: post #252
tomc1985 wrote: post #162

This post needs to be higher in the list. Everyone that the CCP deputizes as one of their spies needs to have their nose held to this shit.

I tried raising awareness about China's bullshit at work once, and was met with awkward silence and was later told in private that I came off as ignorant/immature. All because I said China should be regarded by the West as an enemy/hostile state. Hell, it's the one thing I can side with the current administration on. To me China is not much different than pre-WWII Germany: over-the-top authoritarian, has ambitions to…

We’ve reached a sad state where any criticism of a non-white country or government is regarded as “racist” or “xenophobic.”

Sadly if there were any Chinese team members that heard you and took offense, you could have been reported as saying racist things in the workplace.

This is what is silencing people and politicians from speaking the truth on China and other oppressive governments.

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Post by gremlinsinc »

cblum wrote: post #252
tomc1985 wrote: post #162

This post needs to be higher in the list. Everyone that the CCP deputizes as one of their spies needs to have their nose held to this shit.

I tried raising awareness about China's bullshit at work once, and was met with awkward silence and was later told in private that I came off as ignorant/immature. All because I said China should be regarded by the West as an enemy/hostile state. Hell, it's the one thing I can side with the current administration on. To me China is not much different than pre-WWII Germany: over-the-top authoritarian, has ambitions to…

Honestly, I see us heading towards a world war... w/ water becoming precious commodity - I can't see who's gonna win, or even what the pairings might be...

Maybe EU, USA, Canada, India, Israel, Japan vs China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran, Saudia Arabia?

Except there's some racism/xenophobia between Russia, Islam, China, so maybe not...

But a lot of those places lack water, so that could be motivating factor for more strife, and ignite border clashes, and we might pick sides and others pick their sides and before long it's everywhere and everyone fighting.

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Post by Canada »

bhaskara2 wrote: post #202

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

It's "wolf warrior".

Avoiding Chinese made products isn't a practical solution. Contract manufacturing needs to move elsewhere.

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