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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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post #176

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>Exclusively Not the tool is meant here but the User, and you know it. It's legal to record radio, and record/download Youtube videos, if you don't redistribute it (outside Family and Friends

The distribution of youtube-dl itself is what's at issue, not the use of youtube-dl or the distribution of files downloaded with youtube-dl.

And why is that not a issue anymore? (hint it was):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#212
post #63

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Microsoft is losing the good will they've worked so hard to rebuild. Microsoft employees, managers, Satya: do you see what you're doing? I love the direction you've taken over the past five years, but bowing to the RIAA and attempting to disrupt an innocuous tool are horrible decisions. It's a chilling note, and everyone involved in tech can hear it. Are you telling us Github is not a safe place to develop software a…

GitHub is not a safe place to develop software that has an association with piracy, nor would any centralized service.

What piracy are talking about?

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#213
post #168

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>but please lower that horse back down to earth, it's a little high As if your talking about yourself, maybe your a bit young but we had the exact same problem in the past (decrypting DVD's) those are Disc who stored Movies on it. And a Swiss Court decided that it's legal to use dvcss (not sure about the name). And you tell me to watch a YT from a US Lawyer.

If you'd bother watching the video you'd note that he specifically talks about the CSS DRM, and even the AACS encryption key. So yeah, tone it down a bit.

>So yeah, tone it down a bit.

Speak for yourself please.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#214
post #135

It's a fun hack, but to those thinking about streisanding the source: The strength of ytdl and other downloaders isn't their source code, it's the extensive library of scrapers that are tailor-made for individual sites. The devs have to constantly maintain and update those to keep working when a site changes its design. So if the takedown manages to stop ongoing development on ytdl then even existing copies will beco…

Would it not be possible to move to some decentralized Github alternative?

You mean something like... got? ;)

But I agree with the sibling posts, while decentralised change tracking is pretty much the original idea of git, all the project management stuff (issues, comments, membership/permissions, discoverability) are a lot harder to decentralize.

I also don't think the MPAA or whoever else would be very impressed by that if the end result is still illegal activity: If the developers are known, then they'd either have to pass on the project to someone else or risk liability, whether their project repo is centralised or not.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#215
post #133
post #97

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I agree in principle, but a much easier fix would be to host such code on a tor hidden service. That way the physical server can be located more or less wherever. Then we just have to normalize the use of Tor so that banning it becomes unthinkable ...

In other words, instead of trying to change the laws, which is the whole idea of a democracy, just give up on laws altogether.

The vast majority of people don't give a shit about this, so the money being pumped by rights holders will win out.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#216

So if I understand this correctly it’s possible for anyone to make someone else liable for copyright or patent violations by creating a PR on their repo then arranging for them to get sued?

In the U.S., the DMCA's safe harbor would probably protect them if they took the content down and forwarded the notice to the poster. Not sure about patent law.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#217

> ... is now part of ... Can someone please explain what that means? Is the code not accessible anymore? Is it frozen? No commits allowed? What exactly are the implications here?

It's just someone creating a pull request to the dmca repository with the pull request containing the entirety of the youtube-dl repository (and its history). It's mostly a joke

Any idea what the future of ytdl will look like? Can they continue? Will the source code have to be rewritten?

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#218
post #63

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This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

Microsoft is losing the good will they've worked so hard to rebuild. Microsoft employees, managers, Satya: do you see what you're doing? I love the direction you've taken over the past five years, but bowing to the RIAA and attempting to disrupt an innocuous tool are horrible decisions. It's a chilling note, and everyone involved in tech can hear it. Are you telling us Github is not a safe place to develop software a…

I think there's more nuance to this. on one hand, they loose individual developer mind-share, but I'm sure that big corporation executives and governments are loving this kind of stuff...

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#219
post #214

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Would it not be possible to move to some decentralized Github alternative?

You mean something like... got? ;) But I agree with the sibling posts, while decentralised change tracking is pretty much the original idea of git, all the project management stuff (issues, comments, membership/permissions, discoverability) are a lot harder to decentralize. I also don't think the MPAA or whoever else would be very impressed by that if the end result is still illegal activity: If the developers are kn…

Just host a gitlab instance through TOR or something, bish bash bosh

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#220
post #195

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Would it not be possible to move to some decentralized Github alternative?

You can’t decentralise issues and pull-requests. Edited: as pointed-out, Fossil supports decentralized issues (but not PRs). However, Fossil is a totally different system than Git.

Tell that to fossil devs.
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