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I honestly had no idea that wasn’t universal. Never thought twice about it.
Some people outside of NYC think it's rude the first time they hear it! No "please" or "may I" in sight.
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some people outside of NYC think it's rude the first time they hear it! No "please" or "may I" in sight.
In South Africa we will often say "hello" and "how are you?" before ordering, no exaggeration.
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What makes you discount the role of sex? Honestly curious - it’s pervasive in workplace treatment issues across the gamut, but you discount it here? Why?
People get uncomfortable when they have to think about their privilege. It chips away at the bootstraps fantasy. As a white guy in a field that's mostly male i see this all the time. Lots of people's self worth seems to hinge on the ideal self-reliancy, so to recognize the unfairly positive treatment we receive is too much to bear for many. Instead, they expend their mental energy on finding ANY other passable explan…
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i dont think her sex has anything to do with it. its a company culture thing. in some cultures interrupting is necessary to get heard even at the slightest, while at others people will outcast you as a 'different to work with'. in her next job, stuff might be totally different i've been in both cultures.
What makes you discount the role of sex? Honestly curious - it’s pervasive in workplace treatment issues across the gamut, but you discount it here? Why?
putting it on the sex takes responsibilty away and creates a victim role which is not necessary.
heck my last cfo was a wonder women. sharp as a knife and she pushed the company more than all other male leaders combined. and she was rude af which probably helped as everyone was alpha there
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#75The most perplexing thing about New York English is the use of "on line" instead of "in line" when waiting for something.
Did a brief stint at our London office in the 90s and had a long debate with one of the locals about 'on' vs 'in.'
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Some people outside of NYC think it's rude the first time they hear it! No "please" or "may I" in sight.
Hah, and here I thought I only stick out when I ask for cawfee.
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#77The most perplexing thing about New York English is the use of "on line" instead of "in line" when waiting for something.
I thought that was a Jersey thing. Never came across it until college when a Jersey person mentioned it. Sparked a nice debate around terminology and pronunciation in the group (otherwise made up of MA and CT).
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#78Best New York slang is saying, "lemme get a" when you order hot food at a bodega.
Relevant lesson from the best teachers you could have for New York slang[1];-) It's the Beastie Boys teaching their Japanese interviewer how to say: "Lemme have a slice of pizza.". It's a funny and entertaining interview despite the interviewer being a bit cringe-worthy. In my opinion the interview is also worth watching, because it's a good lesson for how you treat a dialog partner that is nervous and overwhelmed in…
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#79The most perplexing thing about New York English is the use of "on line" instead of "in line" when waiting for something.
My Spanish wife often mixes up "on" and "in" when speaking English because there's a single word for both in Spanish - "en". As well as standing "on line" like New Yorkers, she often "bumps onto" people - because "you don't go inside the other person's body".
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#80The most perplexing thing about New York English is the use of "on line" instead of "in line" when waiting for something.