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Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I fell in this trap too and luckily I paid through PayPal.

I really don’t like PayPal as a company but from a consumer standpoint they’re useful to me because I am able to terminate billing on the PayPal side of things. Also i have not been burned by PayPal in the few disputes I have had to go through.

I wish there was a less shitty option than PayPal with the same level of insulation and dispute resolution. Lots of small businesses/creators have gotten fucked over by PayPal freezing funds for months and not allowing appeals or really any communication is terrible and I hate supporting it.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I love Affinity publisher and hype their products up as much as I can. For Adobe, could you not have issued a chargeback or in some other way dispute the cancellation?

Affinity is wonderful, and for a 1.x product range, it’s pretty darn good.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Does anybody know a good photo management software that's not Lightroom? I don't actually need to do edits to my photos - I need to manage my photo library. Lightroom is not great at it but is passable - is there anything else? What I'm looking for is software that: - Is fast - Is capable of leaving photos where they are ("import-in-place"). - imports photos from card to NAS, organized by time ( year/month/day) - all…

open source darktable is what I use.

http://www.darktable.org/

It’s fast

Leaves it in place

I think it can make collection, but not sure on this point

Not sure

It keeps files locally

Also it is open source ;)

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I fell in this trap too and luckily I paid through PayPal. I really don’t like PayPal as a company but from a consumer standpoint they’re useful to me because I am able to terminate billing on the PayPal side of things. Also i have not been burned by PayPal in the few disputes I have had to go through. I wish there was a less shitty option than PayPal with the same level of insulation and dispute resolution. Lots of…

This is something that really should have been done at the bank level. Cards should have been a request system, the seller requests money and you grant that request. And then for subscriptions you can automate the grant process but at any time its under your control and can stop. Its insane how we just give every seller access to our bank accounts to pull money out of.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

CaptureOne as well: https://www.captureone.com/en/ although their interface is not as good.

It looks like they want to charge me the same as Lightroom but without the seamless cloud storage.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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The rub with all of these services is that your account is burned in addition to your credit card. You can walk away from the remaining 11 months of Lightroom as long as you don't need to continue using Premiere for a project or rely on them for any other ongoing service like downloading stock photos you purchased through them (I think I remember seeing that service?) Similarly, doing this to a Steam account or iTune…

Are there any subscriptions on Steam to do this to? I thought temp credit cards were meant to solve passing your real cc details to a merchant for 1 off transactions or when things like adobe do sketchy stuff. If you're buying games on steam it shouldn't matter if you use a temp credit card or not.

I think the situation is before steam had refunds people would try to make a chargeback and have their whole account locked.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Well, this is as good a time as any then to try out Darktable [1]! [1] https://www.darktable.org/

I did this a while ago. I was super excited to try out a digikam + darktable workflow. But the learning curve for darktable is so steep. I am just an amateur photographer who takes landscape photos. I used to make small edits using Lightroom and some panorama stitching. It seemed so straightforward in Lightroom. I am still struggling to figure out how to edit my photos and what modules to use in darktable. I am looki…

Don't blame yourself. If you're perfectly capable of using LG that's just clear indication the usability issues are with Darktable.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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How’s its catalog? One thing I like about Lightroom is the catalog is just files on disk vs a giant database in say Aperture. I like having my own file layout and would hate to give that up.

It’s just files inside a magic folder. Edits are stored in sidecar files. So even if the database is corrupted, you can still recover. You don’t need to have your photos inside the catalog either, they can be referenced externally. If you like to maintain your own structure, you might like the Sessions feature. It’s an folder-based alternative to the monolithic catalog.

Yeah, I use sessions, which basically means there’s no catalog. I just keep the files where I like and open those folders with Capture One when editing.

I also like the EIP package format. You can package an image into a zip of the original image and all Capture One data. Then it’s just one file for your archives but everything you need is there for the future. Even if you can’t open the Capture One bits at some point, the original is still in there.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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I don't know about software, but pirated games are generally more secure, stable and performant with less spyware than the official games with all the DRM.

There are other options out there that don’t include DRM but also don’t advocate piracy. For example GOG.com

I tend to buy (indie, Linux) games on gog/humble bundle/itch.io, or on the official developer website. When I have to use steam it really pains me, their client, drm, marketing forced accounts, pricing policy .. are a pita.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I recently signed up for adobe CC to test out premiere for some video editing work (side note, Final Cut is better) and instead of inputting a real card I used a privacy.com one. When I decided I didn't want it, I just disabled the privacy card. I only have to deal with a few annoying emails from adobe. I didn't even bother trying to cancel. Reading your comment makes me realize how smart that was.

Is that legal in the USA? Entering into a purchase agreement ("koopovereenkomst", not sure if I'm translating the jargon correctly) and then just not paying? Because that's certainly not legal where I live.

I understand that the odds of repercussions are small and that there are no damages on Adobe's side since you haven't physically taken their goods so it would probably have to be taken up by the public prosecutor rather than become a civil case... but still, I'd not be happy having my name on a "doesn't pay their bills" list, nor is it quite honest.

Or am I misunderstanding the situation and did they advertised with monthly cancelable? (False advertising) Nobody mentioned that in the thread though, and from this comment it sounds like it was very clear that you were agreeing into a year-long subscription: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24232282

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