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I'd love to hear more elaboration on that, or a link to an article. As someone way out of my depth it seems almost silly that they wouldn't be able to figure that out through a combination of throwing expertise and money at it and spycraft.
Related: China can finally manufacture ballpoint pens. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-38566114
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That'll probably happen in the long term. In the short term, China might answer by completely banning US companies from the Chinese market. I don't see anything to win here. Probably every large company, including those from the US, have some kind of production facilities, storage or supplies in China. China applying similar restrictions would probably be a worse hit for the US than the current situation is for China…
I doubt the Chinese will take any rash, knee-jerk reaction here. They are very predictable and will stick to what is in their best interest. Since there is no democratic government either, these decisions are not at risk of changing - unless XiJinping loses a coop, which at this point is an impossibility.
Long term I feel China is going to work around these sanctions and such and end up completely independent of US tech.
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That was already China's stated goal in their "Made in China 2025" initiative. > The initiative encourages production of high value products and services, like aerospace and semiconductors, to help achieve independence from foreign suppliers. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_China_2025
What other countries have long term plans and initiatives and effectively execute on them as China does?
As far as i am aware no country except for different eras of communism(specifically Soviet) have operated somewhat effectively on production output plans on the scale of entire economy.
Long term I feel China is going to work around these sanctions and such and end up completely independent of US tech.
Yes. But will they then innovate at the same rate?
Long term I feel China is going to work around these sanctions and such and end up completely independent of US tech.
How long will take them to do it without stolen tech from companies from US, Europe, Korea and Taiwan?
Then the CCP will be hated even more throughout the world.
Can someone provide more context about what SoC they are going to use for their phones from now on as this is not really clear from the article.
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why does that matter if the outcomes are comparably despicable? In fact that seems _more_ damning to the US people
>why does that matter if the outcomes are comparably despicable How are they comparable? The black incarceration rate in the US is around 2.3%[1], meanwhile the incarceration rate for Uyghurs is estimated to be around 10%-15%[2][3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_St... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_i…
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At the same time the US caused (directly/indirectly) the death of 400-800k people in Iraq. Somehow there is a double standard regarding human rights. China is despicable but I think that the moral ground of the US regarding this kind of issue is quite shaky.
We are a democratic country, don't support a war, vote for someone in office who does not support it. China on the other hand if you don't support putting muslims in concentration camps, you end up there yourself
As a consequence, if those in control of both parties want something (which was the case for the Iraq War), there is absolutely no way for the people to vote against it.
This is without even talking about how consent is manufactured.