No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…
Riot is now Element
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Will it be an update that replaces the current RiotX on my phone, or will I have to download it as a separate app?
It will replace the current Riot Android App. So if you are an early adopter of RiotX you will need to download the main app.
Same for F-droid? I suppose I'll need to be testing the migration process again..
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#123The new site looks great, but the pricing page is a bit confusing.
Godspeed!
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, you again! I wanted to reach you after the discussion about how you were willing to pay a premium for a service if using crypto was an option. Now, giving that you also have issues with the name, May I interest you in Matrix/XMPP hosting provider that you can pay with crypto and invite your friends, called communick ? https://communick.com
Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email. I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area) And for anyone else reading, I b…
You can invite other people to join the site, and yes, that is basically asking people to put an email address to notify your friends. I might implement later a referral/voucher system to make it easy to invite someone to join your paid contract without having to provide an email, but this is somewhat of a lower priority during the soft launch. Documentation and easier onboarding are definitely bigger tickets on my list.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh, I don't see any problems with the name? I like it.
Try googling "element", and then try googling "whatsapp". See the difference? I get frustrated when brands, products, and even more so OSS software projects, choose names that have too many other meanings/brands associated with them because it can make it unnecessarily difficult to find relevant information using current search engine technology[0]. I've had situations where I've been clicking through pages and pages…
Well obviously it doesn't come up because they only just changed the name! In general Google is pretty good at returning the correct result for ambiguous searches. E.g. try searching for "Signal". Every result is about the signal app for me.
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#126Press release pro tip: sidle in what the company or app does very early in. Verging on all of the releases I read on HN don't do this but are for companies I've not heard of. So you leave knowing almost nothing about the company
oops, excellent point. I've added "For those discovering us for the first time: Element is the flagship secure collaboration app for the decentralised Matrix communication network." as the 2nd main para.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email. I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area) And for anyone else reading, I b…
In places like the European Union, it is illegal for example to provide subscription payments without notifying customers before payment renewal (which requires an email address).
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Try googling "element", and then try googling "whatsapp". See the difference? I get frustrated when brands, products, and even more so OSS software projects, choose names that have too many other meanings/brands associated with them because it can make it unnecessarily difficult to find relevant information using current search engine technology[0]. I've had situations where I've been clicking through pages and pages…
> See the difference? Well obviously it doesn't come up because they only just changed the name! In general Google is pretty good at returning the correct result for ambiguous searches. E.g. try searching for "Signal". Every result is about the signal app for me.
Yeeeees. See my comment at the bottom of my original post. That's great if you're searching for the signal app, but rather annoying if you're not.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh, I don't see any problems with the name? I like it.
May I ask if you are a native english user and what country? Perhaps the branding works for EU markets? Element has nothing to do with messaging. In my example,signal has something to do with communication(signaling),telegram is obvious, whatsapp is what you say when you talk to someone like 'hello'(what is up?). Element sounds like something I hear about in a chemistry class. It also has to be catchy. At least Riot…
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#130That's been long overdue and will hopefully help Matrix make inroads into more conservative organizations; I believe the tech is really promising. It's a definite liability, trying to introduce people to Matrix, when the de-facto default client's name evokes all kinds of unhelpful associations – it doesn't sound like work at all and it does sound like gamers, toys, apparently even like a far-left political organisati…
Glad you like it, the original idea was to think of Riot in terms of a 'Riot of Colour', though in practice it can be interpreted in lots of different ways. We think Element has much broader appeal and really like the association with being the smallest indivisible unit.
Still doesn't make any sense ...