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Riot is now Element

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Re: Riot is now Element

#12
post #9

I don't like the new name, is too generic. I think an original alternative would have been better, like Trello, Slack, ...

Yeah, I share that feeling a bit, it's definitely going to make searching for things related to it difficult.

Eg, I just Googled element: "About 2,480,000,000 results (0.68 seconds)"

Re: Riot is now Element

#13
post #12
post #9

I don't like the new name, is too generic. I think an original alternative would have been better, like Trello, Slack, ...

Yeah, I share that feeling a bit, it's definitely going to make searching for things related to it difficult. Eg, I just Googled element: "About 2,480,000,000 results (0.68 seconds)"

Ironically Riot.im is the 4th hit for me on an incognito VPN'd browser for the word Riot. So I hope that Element will end up with the same visibility :)

Re: Riot is now Element

#14
Bravo i have to say. Riot was a really good name for a project in the post NSA/Snowden time, but since we already forgot that, Element is much more Acceptable for the big wash ;)

Re: Riot is now Element

#15
That's been long overdue and will hopefully help Matrix make inroads into more conservative organizations; I believe the tech is really promising. It's a definite liability, trying to introduce people to Matrix, when the de-facto default client's name evokes all kinds of unhelpful associations – it doesn't sound like work at all and it does sound like gamers, toys, apparently even like a far-left political organisation. Element should be fine for everyone.

Re: Riot is now Element

#16
post #9

I don't like the new name, is too generic. I think an original alternative would have been better, like Trello, Slack, ...

I think those names are taken. (Really though, Slack is as generic of a word as Element! It just had a strong connotation now)

Yeah they are taken, I meant a name of that kind, rather than an already existing word that is pretty common too

Re: Riot is now Element

#17

That's been long overdue and will hopefully help Matrix make inroads into more conservative organizations; I believe the tech is really promising. It's a definite liability, trying to introduce people to Matrix, when the de-facto default client's name evokes all kinds of unhelpful associations – it doesn't sound like work at all and it does sound like gamers, toys, apparently even like a far-left political organisati…

Glad you like it, the original idea was to think of Riot in terms of a 'Riot of Colour', though in practice it can be interpreted in lots of different ways.

We think Element has much broader appeal and really like the association with being the smallest indivisible unit.

Re: Riot is now Element

#18
post #11

Do these people care about search results? With a name like that, most people will have a difficult time searching for element related stuff.

Well, quoting them:

> We’re obviously aware that Element is (once again) both a dictionary word and a mathematical term - but in practice, looking at search results for Element right now, the top hits are for dictionary sites(!) and the field is wide open.

Re: Riot is now Element

#19
Speaking of names, I'm upset that the username I go by is taken. I'm echelon @ { gmail, HN, Twitter, Github, Gitlab, Square Cash, etc }, but found Riot / Matrix just a few months too late to get my username.

I'm not satisfied with the "just stand up your own server" response as an alternative.

I know it's cutting off my nose, but I've avoided using it because of this. I'm OCD about stupid usernames.

I wish unused usernames got garbage collected.

I really like how Discord handles usernames.

Re: Riot is now Element

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post #19

Speaking of names, I'm upset that the username I go by is taken. I'm echelon @ { gmail, HN, Twitter, Github, Gitlab, Square Cash, etc }, but found Riot / Matrix just a few months too late to get my username. I'm not satisfied with the "just stand up your own server" response as an alternative. I know it's cutting off my nose, but I've avoided using it because of this. I'm OCD about stupid usernames. I wish unused use…

Well your username is made of a single common name existing in the dictionary, this situation was very predictable.
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