Speaking of names, I'm upset that the username I go by is taken. I'm echelon @ { gmail, HN, Twitter, Github, Gitlab, Square Cash, etc }, but found Riot / Matrix just a few months too late to get my username. I'm not satisfied with the "just stand up your own server" response as an alternative. I know it's cutting off my nose, but I've avoided using it because of this. I'm OCD about stupid usernames. I wish unused use…
Riot is now Element
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Re: Riot is now Element
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think those names are taken. (Really though, Slack is as generic of a word as Element! It just had a strong connotation now)
People often get confused, they think the word is strong (Nike,Google,...) while the word nearly never is. As you've said it's the other way around, what the company evokes in us with their product over time is brought back to the name.
It means that a unique, made-up word is fine because it will gain meaning. It may sound strange now because it is new and unknown but that does not matter because that will change. 'Google' went to a strange, made-up word, to being an everyday noun and verb.
In that respect a made-up word is the best option because you start with a blank slate and you can create its meaning.
Whereas a generic word already has meaning, several competing ones, even, and you have to struggle against that to build your brand, so it's an inferior choice.
Re: Riot is now Element
#63Press release pro tip: sidle in what the company or app does very early in. Verging on all of the releases I read on HN don't do this but are for companies I've not heard of. So you leave knowing almost nothing about the company
Re: Riot is now Element
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried searching for Element in the Google Play store. It suggests an app dedicated to Asian gay men. The website directs to Riot.im. From the article: > RiotX (our ground-up rewrite of Riot Android) has exited beta, and replaces Riot Android as Element RiotX I can find/see, but it shows as a beta. It's not called Element. I guess it's a slow rollout? I used Riot ages ago, it was the suggested solution to have IRC o…
The new app is with Google, we're just waiting on them and it will be live asap. Folks on iOS can pick it up here https://apps.apple.com/app/vector/id1083446067
Re: Riot is now Element
#65Speaking of names, I'm upset that the username I go by is taken. I'm echelon @ { gmail, HN, Twitter, Github, Gitlab, Square Cash, etc }, but found Riot / Matrix just a few months too late to get my username. I'm not satisfied with the "just stand up your own server" response as an alternative. I know it's cutting off my nose, but I've avoided using it because of this. I'm OCD about stupid usernames. I wish unused use…
Re: Riot is now Element
#66Speaking of names, I'm upset that the username I go by is taken. I'm echelon @ { gmail, HN, Twitter, Github, Gitlab, Square Cash, etc }, but found Riot / Matrix just a few months too late to get my username. I'm not satisfied with the "just stand up your own server" response as an alternative. I know it's cutting off my nose, but I've avoided using it because of this. I'm OCD about stupid usernames. I wish unused use…
Re: Riot is now Element
#67Main reason is that they couldn't trademark the "Riot" name due to "Riot Games" company. Edit: They have mentioned this in the blog. Please read that before downvoting.
Could they trademark Element though? I mean it is a very general term.
Re: Riot is now Element
#68Press release pro tip: sidle in what the company or app does very early in. Verging on all of the releases I read on HN don't do this but are for companies I've not heard of. So you leave knowing almost nothing about the company
That's a good point. I've noticed larger enterprises doing this with their pr's, which has always struck me as bit silly when it is a house hold name (Oracle, Canonical, VMWare etc) but ofc not everyone would know them. But for smaller vendors this becomes even more important.
Re: Riot is now Element
#69That's been long overdue and will hopefully help Matrix make inroads into more conservative organizations; I believe the tech is really promising. It's a definite liability, trying to introduce people to Matrix, when the de-facto default client's name evokes all kinds of unhelpful associations – it doesn't sound like work at all and it does sound like gamers, toys, apparently even like a far-left political organisati…
Does the name really inhibit adoption in a corporate environment that much, or is it just an excuse people put down in questionnaires? Plenty of popular tools with questionable names. Splunk and slack comes to mind.
Re: Riot is now Element
#70Press release pro tip: sidle in what the company or app does very early in. Verging on all of the releases I read on HN don't do this but are for companies I've not heard of. So you leave knowing almost nothing about the company