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Wouldn't be surprised if Google, Facebook, or Microsoft suddenly come out with a competing app. Didn't google have one that they shut down recently?

Tell me a single good social app from Google. I'll wait. It's not like they didn't try, but all of them seem to suffer from the design by committee syndrome.

YouTube? It's the second largest social media site in the world:

https://buffer.com/library/social-media-sites/

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Why would you need to be able to afford 2 phones if your employer is requiring you to have a mobile phone for work? That's a situation in which the employer should provide the phone. I've been on-call or mobile-connected for over a decade, I have never had an employer even suggest that I should foot the bill for a work device. Either they've provided me a phone fully paid for work to be returned if I exit, or have co…

There's no good explanation except that US healthcare orgs tend to misuse staff and clinical providers. Super-specialized doctor with untold postdoc training in faculty at my academic medical center? You've got to encrypt your personal phone to standard and install several required apps. No it is not expensed.

Apropos of the rightness or otherwise of this stance, I don't think "specialist physicians" typically fall into the category of people who "cannot afford 2 phones".

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Some light reading: https://rufposten.de/blog/2019/12/05/privacy-analysis-of-tik... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QEyWqAiTE_5xzCs_X3tjDCQx... https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fxgi06/not_new_news... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/tiktoks-owner-is-helpin... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/video-app-linked-to-china... https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-is-the-latest-window-into... https://thehill.…

I just read/skimmed each of these links. Is this any less data than is collected by Facebook or Google in their apps/websites? This seems like mostly an issue with the fact that Android lets apps get at this much data - something that should be fixed at the OS-level. There's very little mention of similar practices/vulnerabilities on iOS.

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I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"

Not everyone can afford 2 phones, but their employers expect them to be online all the time anyway. This is particularly true of people who work in US hospitals.

How many people are both important enough to be on call and can’t afford to add a line?

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I would like to know what US laws TikTok has violated first.

Our laws are woefully out of date to account for the technological innovation that has happened in the last, even, decade. Of course, this is a fact that everyone here is perfectly willing to admit when it comes to topics that are easy to take the "right" side on, like privacy, encryption, and net neutrality. When the topic gets more contentious, like allowing the ability for another country to collect data on the ci…

Privacy incursions have been made by data brokers for 50 years. There's been plenty of time to legislate privacy. The people controlling Congress won't let it happen.

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I feel like this TikTok backlash is so overblown. I don't think TikTok is spying on US consumers/business, and I don't think TikTok is sharing any US private data with CCP... I believe this because there's no evidence to the contrary, and out of principle you shouldn't assume malintent. In fact, TikTok explicitly left Hong Kong because if they didn't they would have to share private data with CCP to comply with new l…

TikTok left Hong Kong because HK is a tiny market, and they wouldn't want the PR backblash if they had to share HK data with CCP.

There's evidence that Bytedance is not independent of CCP interferences though - such as the CEO's public statement in 2018 where he stated that Bytedance products should support "socialist core values" etc.

https://chinamediaproject.org/2018/04/11/tech-shame-in-the-n...

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Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO, got his phone hacked and embarrassing text messages stolen off it from a vulnerability in the video parsing library in WhatsApp in a message sent to him by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in 2018. So Amazon as a company is now very sensitive to what applications are installed on staff devices and how data on those devices can be extracted from vulnerabilities in other installed apps. Th…

Does anyone have any technical detail of that story. It is hard to imagine how a bug in the image parse library can be utilise to steal text message.

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Looks like TikTok is slowly imploding. I know there's plenty of political implications and a lot of discussion here is on that (which is interesting in its own right), but I wonder if there's opportunity here for a potential competitor.

My understanding was that TikTok was basically the Chinese response to periscope and vine, which was popular, but couldn't make money. TikTok's scheme is to be spyware that even puts Facebook to shame, in a way that I'm not convinced isn't just government spyware disguised as social media where the point isn't to make a profit to begin with. If similar attempts have failed because of monetization struggles, I don't s…

They are/were planning to IPO, and their financial will be published so I doubt the conspiracy theory. I've used the original TikTok(Dou Yin), it is super addictive, even my parents fall into that. They do a very good job in terms of engaging both the viewer and content producer(profit cutting etc.)

In my opinion, are still "evil" in terms of hijacking our brain, but I am a bit fed up with those prevailing political prejudice nowadays for anything related to China.

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I don't think any mid-large company allows 2 anymore. Access to company resources always comes with an MDM policy.

I don't get why people are OK with a company being able to wipe a personal device on a whim. If you want full control of my mobile, then provide a mobile.

Everything on my phone is automatically backed up. Whether I would accept the tradeoff of them being able to remotely wipe my phone or wanting to carry two devices is up in the air.

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Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

I doubt the government even has the right to ban an app. If so, could they also ban a website?
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