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Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by btgeekboy »

ardy42 wrote: post #23
ziddoap wrote: post #2

I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"

> I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. I am too. Many years ago at my employer, someone fat-fingered a command and wiped every single iPhone/iPad that an employee had configured to connect the company email system. Even after restoring a backup, the devices would just wipe themselves again unless the owner…

If you can't handle your phone being remotely wiped, you also can't handle it being lost, stolen, or broken.

For me, it's a minor inconvenience at best, not a death sentence.

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Post by haalia »

filoleg wrote: post #82
haalia wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft does the latter, so it wouldn't surprise me if Amazon does likewise.

> Does Amazon provide company phones or just install an MDM profile on your personal phone? > Microsoft does the latter, so it wouldn't surprise me if Amazon does likewise. Not true (source: current MSFT employee). More detailed explanation below, as neither former nor latter describes MSFT accurately. So, for most teams and positions (there are many exceptions), you don't get a dedicated work phone. So yeah, if you…

Yes, you're correct, and I didn't mean to imply that MSFT forces employees to install their MDM on personal devices. It was optional for me as well, with a large full-disclosure prompt stating that they can remotely wipe your device if you proceed with mobile setup.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by echelon »

What's the probability that the Trump admin/DOJ places a nationwide ban on TikTok and other Chinese apps? Could it actually be enforced, or will the First Amendment override any such ban?

What would the ramifications be if a ban were enacted? Retaliation from China against domestic companies?

Will this be an inflection point in the escalation of the trade war?

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by sillysaurusx »

lovich wrote: post #96
chooseaname wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If any company expects me to access my work email while mobile, they have to provide a phone. I never mix work and personal. I've also never had a company say no to that.

Adding another anecdote, when I said I did not want to let work control my mobile phone, my boss told me I could figure out whether I wanted to keep the job or not

Switch jobs! Environments like that will grind down your soul. Or at least they did for mine.

Perhaps I'm projecting a little, but: please don't feel like you're stuck there. It's an illusion more often than not.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by 013a »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #27
orblivion wrote: post #8

Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

I would like to know what US laws TikTok has violated first.

Our laws are woefully out of date to account for the technological innovation that has happened in the last, even, decade.

Of course, this is a fact that everyone here is perfectly willing to admit when it comes to topics that are easy to take the "right" side on, like privacy, encryption, and net neutrality. When the topic gets more contentious, like allowing the ability for another country to collect data on the citizens of the US, its not so clear.

But, the core reasoning behind the issues are the same: we don't have the legal precedent to say that they're breaking the law. This is how new laws are made: we get executive or judicial precedent, this leads to a new law, and now they're breaking it. The law is not set in stone, and allowing applications like TikTok to exist simply because they're not breaking any existing laws is not the kind of conversation any decision makers are having right now, for the better.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by J5892 »

orblivion wrote: post #8

Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

Any tracking that TikTok is doing likely doesn't violate the terms of the Google/Apple stores. So removing it from the stores would just be straight up censorship.

Note: I'm not defending TikTok in any way here. I personally believe that nobody should be using it.

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Post by Assumer »

cheonic729 wrote: post #95
chooseaname wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If any company expects me to access my work email while mobile, they have to provide a phone. I never mix work and personal. I've also never had a company say no to that.

> If any company expects me to access my work email while mobile, they have to provide a phone. No they don't. If you don't like it, switch employers.

Pretty sure that's what he's saying. The company gets to choose between dropping the requirement, providing a phone or hiring/retraining.

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Post by sdoering »

SteveNuts wrote: post #86
nvr219 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're devices that are under Amazon's MDM. So if the device was enrolled with their MDM then it applies.

I'm surprised devices enrolled in their MDM would have EVER allowed Tik Tok in the first place.

Believe me - a lot of companies roll MDM just to be able to remotely wipe the device in case it gets lost.

A lot of them do not block apps (or remove them).

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