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Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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That's not new though, which I think is what the poster is pointing to. China has always been an economic competitor and has been violating human rights for a very long time. There seems to be more attention on it now though.

Because their GDP is growing and at the current pace they will pass the USA around 2025. That's why the USA cares now.

Left unchecked, China will soon be the biggest economy in the world. The USA doesn't want that.

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When I worked at Google over 5 years ago, mobile device options for accessing company accounts were a company-provided and company-owned device with a company-paid phone bill, a personal device with company-provided mobile device management (and sometimes cell phone bill expensing if you for example had on-call duties), a personal device with only limited browser-based work account access, and no account access via m…

The third option - accessing only browser sites - is under appreciated. I never needed to install Google's MDM on my mobile devices, I just used mobile web gmail and so forth. It's great, honestly, and the mobile web Calendar has the advantage that it doesn't destroy your battery life like the Calendar app will. I even saw a guy using the code review site on his mobile, on BART. That was dumb from the standpoint of i…

Part of me thinks that MDM on employee phones has become a something of a checkbox item because customers ask for it but it's not clear to what extent it really protects sensitive customer data (which is what they're concerned about).

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Tik tok is actual Chinese state owned malware, you think apple would have removed it day one or never let it on their walled garden, since it breaks most apple rules about phone access. Same with the play store.

And those rules are...?

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You have incorrectly framed the issue. The fact is that China has been anti-US and anti-democracy for the past few decades and the world is finally coming to terms with that and defending themselves. It is both laughable and sad that so many Americans like yourself are so ill-informed and quick to jump on the "US bad" train.

They never said US bad. I think its totally reasonable to point out that there was a sudden, drastic shift in tone over the last 3-6 months. TikTok was gaining popularity last summer, and no one, short of a few NYT op-eds, said anything. China is a geopolitical rival. We should probably aspire to be better than them first rather than copy them with an internet firewall and censorship of our own. One of the challenges…

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Does Amazon provide company phones or just install an MDM profile on your personal phone? I have TikTok installed on my phone, and if my employer said I had to remove it to access my work email, I'd ask them to buy me a work phone. It seems a bit ridiculous that they'd want to control what apps you download on your personal device without providing an alternative.

There's also no requirement to have your business email on your phone, at least in my organization in Amazon. I'm happy to leave it off and not worry about any issues like this. Of course I do have other apps directly related to work... I guess those aren't an issue if I had TikTok?

i haven’t had work email on my phone in 7 years. it has not impacted my career negatively

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Evidence always goes back to that adrian zenz fraud. I don't believe it.

With the overwhelming amount of evidence and testimony regarding human rights violations in Xinjiang, burden of proof is on the CCP to disprove.

EDIT: Since HN has blocked me from posting too fast, here is my response to your reply:

> It's so absurd! Not a SINGLE MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA suddenly cares about muslims? Use your brain.

Maybe China has bought their silence? See https://www.businessinsider.com/imran-khan-pakistan-wont-cri.... UN has been bought as well. See all actions by WHO since Covid-19 started.

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I'll admit I don't know the specifics beyond what was tweeted. I'm with you though... If an employer wants to manage my device, they can provide the device.

With all the security implications there could be, I would just refuse to use or own a smartphone in any capacity if it's related to work, unless there was no camera, mic, or GPS sensor (or they could provide hardware switches). Seriously, they could be logging your exact location, remotely activating the camera or doing any number of disgusting things. Requiring the use of a spy should not be a factor in an employme…

Apples iOS MDM framework is exemplary in that regard. Access to the camera is not possible. Access to GPS is only possible if the device is marked as lost, which will visibly change the lock screen. Even when lost mode is deactivated, GPS access that happened during lost mode is highly visibly marked on the lock screen.

Installing an app that relays GPS and camera may be possible, but permissions need to be granted by the user explicitly- the MDM server cannot grant those permissions.

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Yeah, not to defend Tik-Tok, China, or spyware in general, but it's ironic that nobody has a problem with Google, Facebook, and other American companies tracking everything people do, but when a Chinese company starts doing it, it's suddenly a big problem. But then again, TikTok probably doesn't answer their subpoenas...

Yeah the difference is that if FB violates my rights, I have some recourse. Not so if its the CCP.

What recourse do you mean, exactly?

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US would destroy anything not originating from its soil. Pathetic.

How do you make this leap?

Look at TikTok? Not from US, immediately being attacked by US. If it was from US like FB, Twitter, there would be no discussion about it's security.
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