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Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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enitihas wrote: post #17
orblivion wrote: post #8

Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

Apple earns a lot of money from China, so difficult for them to do something which irritates the Chinese government. Google behaves the same way, even though they have no income from China right now, but I think they are secretly hopefully of dragonfly.

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Post by braythwayt »

easytiger wrote: post #47
ziddoap wrote: post #2

I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"

Yea. Coming from a banking and financial services background I'm incredulous than any company would allow any social media on a device. This was all much easier in the blackberry days for them to control

"This was all much easier in the blackberry days for them to control"

And indeed, that was Blackberry's big sales pitch.

BYOD creates many, many wonderful consequences, however it also has tradeoffs, and those tradeoffs are not for the faint-of-security.

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hn3333 wrote: post #29

Does anyone else feel we're suddenly supposed to be anti-China? Is it because of Hong Kong? (Honest question, I have no strong opinion .) Because it feels like after Russia and Muslims now China is the new enemy. Kind of stupid imho. Anyway, the high road would probably be not to ban any apps but to make the operating systems safer..

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Post by thereticent »

tristor wrote: post #21
wilde wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone can afford 2 phones, but their employers expect them to be online all the time anyway. This is particularly true of people who work in US hospitals.

Why would you need to be able to afford 2 phones if your employer is requiring you to have a mobile phone for work? That's a situation in which the employer should provide the phone. I've been on-call or mobile-connected for over a decade, I have never had an employer even suggest that I should foot the bill for a work device. Either they've provided me a phone fully paid for work to be returned if I exit, or have co…

There's no good explanation except that US healthcare orgs tend to misuse staff and clinical providers. Super-specialized doctor with untold postdoc training in faculty at my academic medical center? You've got to encrypt your personal phone to standard and install several required apps. No it is not expensed.

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Post by nemothekid »

orblivion wrote: post #8

Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

>Sorry if I missed something obvious

The fact that they aren't doing anything that FB isn't already doing. The beef the USG has is that the CCP will have access to the data, not the fact that they are collecting the data at all.

The privacy hawks have been warning about this exact situation and people are now "surprised" when someone gets access to the data that they might not like.

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Post by nvr219 »

ehsankia wrote: post #53
danso wrote: post #33

Note: since this tweet/submission, some outlets have written stories about this: https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/10/21320196/amazon-employees... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/technology/tiktok-amazon-...

I'm curious, are these 1. Devices owned by Amazon, for work 2. Personal devices with the amazon email added directly 3. Personal devices with amazon email added on Work profile Could not find this info in the articles or tweet.

They're devices that are under Amazon's MDM. So if the device was enrolled with their MDM then it applies.

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Post by geogra4 »

ngold wrote: post #45
whoisjuan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is Apple's second largest market. They are not removing it from the US App Store unless they are legally obligated to do so. They have no reason to add wood to that fire. Apple's best bet right now with this particular issue is to play neutrality.

Tik tok is actual Chinese state owned malware, you think apple would have removed it day one or never let it on their walled garden, since it breaks most apple rules about phone access. Same with the play store.

And those rules are...?

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Post by matsemann »

ardy42 wrote: post #23
ziddoap wrote: post #2

I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"

> I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. I am too. Many years ago at my employer, someone fat-fingered a command and wiped every single iPhone/iPad that an employee had configured to connect the company email system. Even after restoring a backup, the devices would just wipe themselves again unless the owner…

Not exactly the same, but where I used to work someone had turned on "wipe the phone after x incorrect pins" without notifying anyone. Lots of people with kids got their phone remotely deleted.

After that I've never allowed an employer to control my personal devices. Not that I actually did before, didn't know activating that stuff had so bug implications. I just wanted the calendar on my phone.

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