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Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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I hope he doesn’t make it. The death of this person is likely to be a net positive for the health of the Amazon and thus the planet. I don’t usually wish badly upon people. This is one of the few cases where I do.

He still doesn't deserve to die. There are other more constructive ways to turn it into a net positive like not re-elect him.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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He definitely seems to be handling it quite alright. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG0WaCmO56E

This is so sad. He will now go bragging how it is just a flu, as he said.

agreed :(

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Not to be insensitive, but what's the death rate for healthy individuals in his age range? Next to zero? Italy reported that 99% of those who died from Corona had other health issues.[1] In my county (county, not country) it was reported that 99.4% of our Covid cases have recovered, and that was just the cases that were tracked. Yes, the vulnerable should be taken care of, but legitimately asking - why is there still…

I really wish people (not you) would stop pushing the idea that death is the only consequence of COVID. Three different NFL players have said their lungs still aren't recovered and they're still getting winded months after having COVID. These are people in their 30s and younger and in some of the best fitness in the world. Plenty of stories of blood clotting leading to many other issues in the general population duri…

You're talking anecdotes, not data. Chronic illness is not a common side-effect for those who recover from COVID-19. It's in line with the side-effects you would expect to see when people catch a serious RTI. Influenza also causes lung scarring, exhaustion, blood clots, and so on. If you have a study that shows COVID-19 causing lasting damage in an significant number of cases I'd like to see it.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Depending on who you ask, drone strikes have killed somewhere between a couple hundred and a couple thousand civilians. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_U.S._... ) 1% of the world is 78 million people dead. (The virus won't hit 100% of people, but the numbers are already in the hundreds of thousands worldwide.)

So because it was a smaller number, they’re less important? All I’m asking (and it applies to everyone of any political ideology) is where is the outrage when your favored party either allows or is responsible outright for deaths? Also, unintentional deaths are in the same ballpark as coronavirus deaths, why don’t we criminalize vehicles, bubble wrap our homes, or avoid anything that could possibly harm us? It’s a fa…

> So because it was a smaller number, they’re less important?

On a public policy level, sure. A million deaths tends to matter more than a thousand. This is hardly controversial.

> Also, unintentional deaths are in the same ballpark as coronavirus deaths, why don’t we criminalize vehicles, bubble wrap our homes, or avoid anything that could possibly harm us?

We do the cost/benefit analysis on a lot of such things. Cars are now larger, heavier, and more expensive because we've added various things that make occupants safer. Building codes have done the same for houses.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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post #101
post #42

I hope he doesn’t make it. The death of this person is likely to be a net positive for the health of the Amazon and thus the planet. I don’t usually wish badly upon people. This is one of the few cases where I do.

He still doesn't deserve to die. There are other more constructive ways to turn it into a net positive like not re-elect him.

while he makes more damage to his people ?

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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It is news, but as other have noted it is not surprising given Bolsanaro's public stance. Frankly, I am more surprised US upper echelon seems largely unscathed at the moment.

Numerous elected officials and political figures have been infected as a result of going to conventions, Congress, etc.

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> Reports of Sweden's demise have been greatly exaggerated. Reports of Sweden's success are likely premature, though. The world has a long way left to go.

I don't think it's premature to say Sweden has been successful. It may not be over yet, but this trend is pretty clear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#De...

The US chart of infections looked like that a few weeks back; things change quickly, especially if people get to thinking they're done. A second wave in Sweden (and elsewhere) would hardly be surprising.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

#108
post #5

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i wonder if he nows thinks is a "little flu"

For a significant percentage of people, symptoms are mild. It wouldn't be at all surprising for someone like Bolsanaro or Trump to get a mild case and cite that as evidence - "see, I got it, and it wasn't bad at all!"

Well Trump actually is perfectly aware of the Covid risks, he is not that stupid. He really just panders to increasingly smaller radical public (and thaw would be his demise), while the moderate republicans kinda more aligned with what Pence does and says. Trump made a wrong bet, and he is going to lose.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Doesnt mean it’s very likely. Scientific consensus around masks is pretty clear Not everybody’s opinions are valid regardless of credentials

It was clear back in February too. "Stop buying masks, they don't help." Then in April the consensus did a 180. Consensus doesn't equal fact.

First, that was not what they said. They do help but it was said don’t buy N95 cus supply shortages. That’s fixed now, so point 2) Things change. Data changes. Why is changing your mind and admitting mistakes a sin now? I’m not a lemming.

I think that’s the real issue here, an inability to accept change or recognize nuance

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

#110
post #86

What would happen if Bolsanaro doesn't survive? How does succession works in Brazil. Is the next person in line more or less rational than Bolsanaro. Also can it end up leading Brazil further to the right due to sympathy votes? Or will it make people realise his incompetence if something happens to him.

Like most people who get infected, its very unlikely he is going to die from this, he'll recover and move on.

.2 percent in his age cohort. Unlikely, but not very.
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