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Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by BurningFrog »

haram_masala wrote: post #209
walrus01 wrote: post #184

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It's not a completely illogical approach. An armored convoy stands out like a sore thumb in Rawalpindi. An ordinary slightly beat up, 6-8 year old Suzuki Bolan does not. Maybe send out a few decoy high security vehicles with uniformed crews going in a few different directions, and then send out the Bolan going elsewhere. Bolan: https://www.google.com/search?q=suzuki+bolan&client=ubuntu&h...

If an armored convoy is not enough to protect your nuclear weapons, then you have an entirely different problem that needs solving first.

Pakistan has several armies, foreign and domestic, operating in its territory.

You're right Pakistan's problems are many and epic.

But saying "Hey, I have a great idea, you should solve your problems!" is not brilliant advice. They've already thought of that.

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by pvaldes »

dragandj wrote: post #310
baybal2 wrote: post #275

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> Strike Russia, who has many more nuclear warheads, and stronger anti-nuclear protection? Yes, what's use of a superweapon if you can't make use of it? From my childhood experience, some times you need to commit without reservations to completely hopeless, no chance fights, as the only hope for a way out. Strong adversaries often don't expect the weak to even attempt to fight back.

The point is that the results of using it would be: - would the weapons be neutralized in most or all cases by Russia before it reaches the targets? Perhaps yes? I don't know much about that sort of thing. - it would give a carte blanche to Russia to wipe out Ukraine, which it has the means to do if it comes to total war. That's why I'm skeptical that nuclear weapons bring more benefits than trouble for smaller playe…

> it would give a carte blanche to Russia to wipe out Ukraine

But the final result would be the same as Russia deliberately bombing themselves and amputating a big chunk of their own country forever. The radioactivity would not stop in the Ukranian frontier. All nuclear weapons are boomerangs

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by hdheis9ssi »

redis_mlc wrote: post #338
skissane wrote: post #336

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If you worded your point as "countries with hierarchical cultures and whose aviation industry is dominated by ex-military pilots have this problem" I don't think people would disagree with it to anywhere near the same extent. It isn't making that point, it is making it in combination with the fallacious assumption there is such a thing as an "Asian culture" (as opposed to "Asian cultures") Is it only Asian countries…

> I don't think people would disagree with it to anywhere near the same extent. I never asked for your agreement. If you want to explore that further, here's an exercise for you. Name one Asian country over 50 million people that doesn't revere their elders. Back to aviation ... The West adopted CRM decades ago, which really helped with interpersonal issues in the cockpit. The concept of pilot flying (controls) and p…

It's funny how you're smart enough to know asian countries aren't like western countries but still stupid enough where you can't figure out something that costs 100k in the west isn't 100k in asia. People like you are so close to the sun but still grapple in dark stupidity.

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by rwmj »

duxup wrote: post #334
valuearb wrote: post #269

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If I understand correctly does that mean they tried reversers, but they didn’t work so that’s why they initiated a go round?

The initial report indicates they did try to, but many planes won't allow reverse power unless some other indicator (landing gear down an in contact with the ground) says they're on the ground. So maybe they'll go to idle but won't reverse, because reverse while in the air would be bad.

Fun fact, the Shuttle Training Aircraft actually used reverse thrust in the air to simulate the (probably terrifying) rate of descent of the real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuttle_Training_Aircraft

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by henvic »

dbcurtis wrote: post #266
chooseaname wrote: post #248

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Is there any kind of indicator in the cockpit to remind the pilot? A light? A voice (like the stall voice), that says, "Hey doofus, you're descending and close to landing, so LOWER THE GEAR!"

A friend of mine that years ago (pre-F-18) was a carrier-rated Navy fighter pilot had, after he got out, flown a Mooney for a couple decades. His wife also a pilot. He always went down the checklist verbally, every time. One time on approach he said: “Gear down. Three in the green.” meaning gear down and locked indicator on all three wheels. His wife said: “You do not have three in the green.” The human brain is a fu…

When I cross a road I usually quickly look two or three times to check traffic, even when it's one-way. This way, I make sure that even if I'm in a hurry, I'll likely take a look at least once at each side.

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by woodandsteel »

linuxftw wrote: post #306
woodandsteel wrote: post #268

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>This is common in all government run systems No, that is not at all true. There are lots of government run systems, like the health care systems in most developed countries, that are just fine. The problem with Pakistan is it has a highly corrupt culture in general and in government in particular. That is no doubt why so many of the airline pilots were able to get hired without a legal licence. Your general claim an…

> crackpot libertarian view that modern societies Which group, government or 'crackpot libertarians', were responsible for more deaths in the last century? I'll wait. I'm sure if you ask those in Iraq, they'd vastly prefer the US Government was more libertarian (or any NATO government, really). I understand wanting to trade blood for convenience, as long as it's not your blood.

Oh dear, you are making the argument that if it is very bad to be wrong in one irrational way, that makes it just fine to be wrong in another irrational way. Wouldn't it be better to be just, you know, right?

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by rkangel »

_jal wrote: post #284
toomanyrichies wrote: post #260

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In software circles, this is called "security by obscurity" and is frowned upon. And if it's a bad idea with software, I'd argue it's also a bad idea with nuclear weapons.

People constantly misuse that quote to claim that "obscurity" should never be used. This is false; denying your opponent information is a critical component of a well-designed security process. It should not be the only mechanism employed. (I have no clue what, if any, other measures Pakistan employed.)

You are absolutely correct. Having worked in the field I can tell you that Security Research into iPhones is a lot harder than Android.

You have the full source of major important components of Android (like the OS Kernel), and you have very little of that for iOS. They've both got great, constantly advancing security models, but the iPhone's extra layer of security will continue to give it the edge (in my opinion at least).

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Post by edm0nd »

pknerd wrote: post #274
edm0nd wrote: post #98

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I mean their own Pakistani government is known for harboring terrorists and it is also where Bin Laden was found. It's not the best of countries.

Osama was CIA friend in past. Kindly don't stirr useless debate.

lol, don't let your own bias or own Pakistani government cloud your vision with lies ;)

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_state-sponsored_t...

- https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2018/01/05/w...

- https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/double-gam...

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