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Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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https://archive.fo/pgxDl https://archive.is/zImUv

Maybe I'm just looking for comfort, but this passage (from your first link) seems like a big logical leap to me: > The fact that patients not displaying symptoms are able to transmit the coronavirus indicates something alarming. As typically such respiratory viruses are normally transmitted thru the mouth via coughing in which minute droplets are exposed or thru the nose when the nasal fluids are released through sne…

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/publichealth/...

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Mortality of flu is over 0.1%, with coronavirus it is over 2%. And flu has shorter incubation time. That is massive difference.

2% may be still too high, it might even be high sub 1% (e.g. .7%), but the big problem is how many of cases require hospitalization and especially intensive care. if number of ICU patients grows 10x in one month, we're all in trouble and that's seemingly what happened in China.

The numbers I have seen were between 2% and 3%, higher for males and lower for females. I did not seen sub 1% anywhere.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Please stop spreading speculation, there is absolutely no evidence of a more deadly mutated version of virus.

https://archive.is/GPVv4 https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Speculation, no evidence.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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This same tough decision-making process will play out thousands of times in the next few months. Any event that draws an international crowd poses an elevated risk. You can't know where people have been or what kind of screening process has been applied. If you're planning on attending a tech conference with an international crowd, now is the time to reconsider. The possibility of asymptomatic transmission through ca…

The disease has spread in places like Singapore and Thailand, which are warmer in February than most Northern Hemisphere cities are in summer. The notion that everything will just die down come Spring is blindingly optimistic.

> The disease has spread in places like Singapore and Thailand, which are warmer in February than most Northern Hemisphere cities are in summer.

Most Singapore buildings and its public transport system are fully A/C.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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The Olympics won't be cancelled.

Why?

Because the percentage increase of foreigners coming into Tokyo as a result of the Olympics is negligible compared to the numbers going in and out on a daily basis.

I love a good end-of-the-world scenario as much as anyone. But, gimme a break... What rational benefit would there be in cancelling the Olympics? The only risk of disease arising from the Olympics is the spread of herpes, chlamydia, and ghonorhea in the Olympic village (a small price to pay to party with uber-fit gymnasts...)

We've heard these warnings so many times...

Ebola, Avian Flu, SARS, MERS, West Nile Virus, Mad Cow Disease, H1N1, Zika Virus, etc., etc....

Wake me when the dead start not staying dead... Now THAT would be a virus I could can get behind. Until then, I fully expect to watch the Olympics this summer (and maybe an episode or two of The Walking Dead), and read through some of these hysterical posts and chuckle.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Coronavirus will burn itself out in May when temperatures rise. Just like common flu virus, increasing sunlight and humidity will stop the spread of the virus during summer. Source: professor John Nicholls a clinical professor in pathology at the University of Hong Kong and expert on coronaviruses had a conference call where he explained most likely outcome. transcript here: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTii…

Singapore is literally touching the equator, and the coronavirus there keeps spreading. Local transmission has outnumbered imported cases a while ago. Temperature & humidity really isn't going to help.

> Singapore is literally touching the equator, and the coronavirus there keeps spreading.

Most Singapore buildings and its public transport system are fully A/C.

"The coronavirus there keeps spreading" is technically true, but we're talking about 1-3 confirmed cases a day, and an absurd number of people who have been served quarantine/stay-at-home orders.

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Here in Belgium it's almost impossible to find masks as well, except if you want to pay 70+ EUR https://i.imgur.com/dGd56Ng.png I suspect Asian customers have been plundering online EU shops for a while. Having said that, I don't think it's the responsibility of the WHO to distribute masks to health professionals like your partner.

The WHO acts like an advisory board that could have recommended governments to stockpile them before the disease appeared. Whether they should or not is a different story.

An article in the Guardian just mentioned France will make 15 million masks available to the public.

So it looks like perhaps they have stockpiled. Until there's no recommendation to wear masks, any shortages are just private businesses that have run out. No failure of govt or WHO.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Are the effect of the coronavirus on the stock market could be opportunity for investing? The SP500 went down 8% this past 4 days. I'm wondering if that will go lower those next days. I have a bit amount of money on the side, I didn't know where to invest. Would now be a good opportunity to lump sum all the money, or would you Dollar Cost Average? Anyone else with the same dilemma, and would have more arguments?

Just my opinion but I don't think it's a good time. Supply chain disruptions haven't turned into shortages, yet. The USA and other countries are with all certainty hiding the extent of the problem and the media is going along with it.

There are going to be some more news bombshells before public perception shifts. You need to wait until everyone is in despair before investing.

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No matter where you were in the developed world, the majority in 1932 (though not necessarily the majority of the elites) would have held similar views or views that were even further away from yours. The US, for instance, had just recently passed an immigration law that was explicitly racist in design, which wasn't repealed until 1965, and even then the proponents of the replacement legislation had to lie through th…

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