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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I expect they would be allowed. The US also allows international observers for its elections as well.

The USA is objectively corrupt from the top, have recently removed themselves from non nuclear proliferation and climate treaties .. as a country the message seems clear that USA don't care two shits about the rest of the World. The idea Trump would open his response to an epidemic up to international inspection is just laughable - and I say his, rather than USA government's because that's how things appear to work t…

Please don't use "objectively" as a replacement for "in my opinion". The two are not the same.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I'm curious how other folks who work at large tech shops in the valley feel about working from home for a while. There is nearly zero reason for me to show up at work. I can do nearly everything from home, often better. At work, I'm in a large, open building surrounded by thousands of people. Am I overreacting? I know there's a good chance we're all going to get COVID-19, but if I can delay it a bit, I lessen the hit…

Probably overreacting. There is a much greater chance of you dying on your commute than catching the virus if you are in the US, so the virus has not significantly increased your chances of death. And if you are worried about being a carrier, it is far more likely for you to get the flu, which can also be deadly, so the virus has not significantly increased your risk to others either. Maybe if the US had tens of thou…

The scary thing is that we don't actually know how many infections there are. The test used in the U.S. reportedly isn't accurate.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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> Do you really think it will be any different in the USA or Europe? Will the governments ban conventions? Close restaurants and bars? Shut down shopping malls? Look at Italy right now. > Or will instead, in the interest of "the economy" (ie, money) keep too light a hand on things. Sure, but this has nothing to do with authoritarian states vs democracy. You'll find a ton of authoritarian states doing exactly the same…

Here's the thing with Italy. They're the first Western country to get a major outbreak. They're being told to do things and assuming that it will stop the virus. But the truth is, containment does not actually stop the virus. It simply slows it. When or if this hits the US or elsewhere in Europe, and it becomes obvious that despite the quarantine in Italy, the virus still continued to spread, they will question the m…

In the West, everything is up for debate. People don't like to be told what to do.

I guess that's how we in the USA managed to reject the TSA full-body scanners and pat-downs.

It seems to me that most of us complained a lot, the government ignored us, and we knuckled under and complied.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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What's he supposed to do? He went out of his way to put it in the polite way for you. Unless you want to go into complete incomprehensibility, it's a "rock and a hard place" situation.

Personally, I'd prefer such comments not to be made in a euphemistic way and just speak plainly. If you have concerns (valid or not) with immigrants not following the native culture and social norms then say that.

I could totally write the main races involved here (and I do when speaking in public) but no only this would triggers too much people, it’s also wrong to generalize a situation in two words, especially in an international place were readers don’t have the background about the situation nor the linguistics abilitiy to acquire it.

Moreover, plenty of non-White French are integrated in the national community because they speak French, they eat our foods, think mostly like us, and follow our laws and traditions or at least don’t spit on them openly. So, it’s unfair to them to put them in same bag by throwing around anathema based on ethnical background.

On the other side, there is a visible portion (about 10%) that openly hate France, its culture and its people. They routinely kill people for religious matter, degrade churches (one every two days per Vatican numbers), harass women in the street, physically attack people often in gang (120 daily knife aggression countrywide), do thefts, etc. All the crimes listed here are like 80%+ committed by people with visible foreign origin. But sure, stating an opinion is the real problem, while aggressing people for being White or non-Muslim is totally not racism...

PS: and before someone come with "you read too much the news", I have numerous stories of female friends being robbed (including one being robbed two times and beat by 3 guys in the same day), and also an acquaintance almost killed in a famous terror attack. Each and every case have been cause by non-White non-Asian people. And of course, not even 1/50th of that ever happened to me or my friends abroad in countries which have a immigration policy that makes sense.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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The dumb part of all of this is how the gov. and the IOC handled the summer olympics up to this point. For instance there was the discussion around the marathon, where runners would be at serious risk when running outdoors in the middle of the summer in Tokyo. Yet it took months and months of discussions, stupid alternatives (including "let's change Tokyo's time during the Olympics so the marathon starts at the plann…

I have to imagine the heat/humidity is just as bad in places like LA/Atlanta that have previously hosted the summer olympics. Did they just not care about heatstroke back then?

LA is quite dry in the summer. Atlanta does get humid, but not nearly as bad as Tokyo does.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Personally, I'd prefer such comments not to be made in a euphemistic way and just speak plainly. If you have concerns (valid or not) with immigrants not following the native culture and social norms then say that.

I could totally write the main races involved here (and I do when speaking in public) but no only this would triggers too much people, it’s also wrong to generalize a situation in two words, especially in an international place were readers don’t have the background about the situation nor the linguistics abilitiy to acquire it. Moreover, plenty of non-White French are integrated in the national community because the…

> But sure, stating an opinion is the real problem

Where do you get that? All I suggested was you express your opinion clearly, rather than euphemistically.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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You’re not wrong, but you have a bit of a dismal look at it. Sports, like other forms of entertainment, are a sign of culture, and culture is the touchstone of a good workforce. Just like it’s important to take short breaks in the office, even small amounts of entertainment is important to keep us happy and focused. Large events, such as the Olympics and Oscars, give a pattern to the years, something to talk about an…

To be honest, I have never seen sports as "culture". Neither the Oscars. They are just PR events in this day and age. By the way, hosting the Olympics does not boost the local economy. Quite the opposite, in fact, at least in many cases. They are a heavy loss and increase in debt for almost every city that did it, as well as detrimental for the environment overall. Governments do it as a long term investment in publi…

> To be honest, I have never seen sports as "culture".

As always it is extremely important to remember that your culture is not everyones' culture!!! You may not view sports as any sort of culture and as far as I'm concerned that's totally fine. But I would say that I feel connected to running "culture", and I dare you to try telling an Italian 'ultra' (soccer super fan) that their sport is not part of their culture ;)

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How can they have all the warnings they needed if China didn't give them the right info from the start ? That 27 days incubation period got a lot of people infected and becoming carriers. It's like, China had a relatively well defined outbreak center while other countries started with a wide spread invisible web of carriers.

>How can they have all the warnings they needed if China didn't give them the right info from the start So what country gave China info from the start? Japan and SK had a lot more info with regard to the disease (human to human transmission, asymptotic transmission, 14 days incubation period, hell even the RNA sequence was done on the virus) than what China had at the beginning.

I don't understand your statement. WHO didn't hid any information from China, neither other countries did. What kind of info could they have given to China when they didn't even know there was an outbreak (much less when China didn't even want to acknowledge it) ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_ou...

Having more info once contaminated people got reported doesn't change the fact that weeks went by with potential carriers spreading everywhere unchecked.

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“There are hundreds of millions of people who agree with him. Get over it.” Somebody talking about Germany in 1932

No matter where you were in the developed world, the majority in 1932 (though not necessarily the majority of the elites) would have held similar views or views that were even further away from yours. The US, for instance, had just recently passed an immigration law that was explicitly racist in design, which wasn't repealed until 1965, and even then the proponents of the replacement legislation had to lie through th…

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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Not to mention the virus is mutating and is now killing healthy people in their twenties in Hubei (if not at least serious disease requiring mechanical ventilation and supplemental oxygen). Also there is evidence the HIV drugs are no longer working due to the virus developing resistance. Those of you thinking "oh I'm a healthy young person I'm just gonna carry on doing what I'm doing" is gonna be in for a rude awaken…

Please stop spreading speculation, there is absolutely no evidence of a more deadly mutated version of virus.

https://archive.is/GPVv4

https://nextstrain.org/ncov

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