Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained
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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but its also nowhere as mortal or serious as these others you are listing.
9% of resolved cases have ended in death. It's pretty serious.
Of the resolved cases, the recovered are only those that were reported. Very likely there are many more recoveries with a mild trajectory. Much less likely that there are many unreported deaths at this point (at least in Wuhan where the vast majority of deaths is concentrated)
Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained
#653I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…
> I think when this all comes to an end, China will be one of the countries that dealt with the virus the best.
Its either a bait and switch or humblebrag or just plain misunderstanding. The Chinese government and their insecurity of looking bad to the world are the reason we are in this mess. They lied about the virus, covered up the extent of infection and with all their "resources" its an American company that might just develop a vaccine. And should that be the case American capitalism might be the one that saves us from a pandemic. In retrospect it might just end up that China is great at brute force labour intensive methods but lag behind when it comes to high tech solutions.
Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained
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> I think when this all comes to an end, China will be one of the countries that dealt with the virus the best. Countries without authoritarian governments likely don't have the means to effectively quarantine major cities and shut down massive portions of their economy immediately without major problems arising. Given a couple weeks, sure, but by then it will be too late. It may well seem that way in retrospect. Whe…
> those same authoritarian governments are the ones who played down the threat, lied, covered up to save face, imprisoned whistle-blowers, and refused to let international experts in. I'm scared that it will become a lot worse than that. The pandemic gives them a real-life stress test and lessons to harden the surveillance state and further improve technical controls and tweak the technology to become more effective.…
Yeah, but if 2% of all the Chinese die that's going to mess their economy up real good. Considering the whole thing is a house of cards, I'm bullish on the coronavirus.
Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained
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> china didn't lie with the 2% death rate Keep in mind that 2% is just a guess, of people officially diagnosed the death rate is supposedly 4.8%: https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/f9134d/48_fatality...
That is not true. Of people officially diagnosed in Wuhan, the death rate is the 2.3% being widely reported: http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9...
The 2.3% figure comes from here:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762130?gu...
Note that they are looking at people who were diagnosed up through Feb 11th. It normally takes people 3 - 4 weeks to die from the disease, and it hasn't even been 3 weeks from Feb 11th, so it seems like this figure is designed as a lower bound.
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> I'm French, and we've been lucky so far, but I expect chaos when it's going to start. The government has long lost all political legitimity here, and people absolutely distrust them, so I don't think they will not peacefully comply to government attempt to limit the propagation. Lot of French follows the rules. They will complain (a lot!) about and break them here or there but I expect most real French to mostly fo…
I'm not sure if it's just my imagination, but your comment, and especially the “real French” part makes me uneasy. You aren't implying anything racist are you? BTW I way less worried about thugs than about antivax mums and other fakemeds enthusiasts believing about conspiracy theory involving “big pharma”.
What's he supposed to do? He went out of his way to put it in the polite way for you. Unless you want to go into complete incomprehensibility, it's a "rock and a hard place" situation.
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#657Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not your humble opinion. Sports are just entertainment nowadays. Lowest priority.
You’re not wrong, but you have a bit of a dismal look at it. Sports, like other forms of entertainment, are a sign of culture, and culture is the touchstone of a good workforce. Just like it’s important to take short breaks in the office, even small amounts of entertainment is important to keep us happy and focused. Large events, such as the Olympics and Oscars, give a pattern to the years, something to talk about an…
To be honest, I have never seen sports as "culture". Neither the Oscars. They are just PR events in this day and age.
By the way, hosting the Olympics does not boost the local economy. Quite the opposite, in fact, at least in many cases. They are a heavy loss and increase in debt for almost every city that did it, as well as detrimental for the environment overall. Governments do it as a long term investment in publicity.
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I think many people here on hackernews are being stupid that they are healthy adults so they don't need to worry. Even if you don't die you will be out of the work force for 2-3 weeks either because you are sick or quarantined. You could pass the infection to your children, parents Grand parents who might not be able to fight off the infection and die. Many people get flu vaccines or over the years have built up some…
Not to mention the virus is mutating and is now killing healthy people in their twenties in Hubei (if not at least serious disease requiring mechanical ventilation and supplemental oxygen). Also there is evidence the HIV drugs are no longer working due to the virus developing resistance. Those of you thinking "oh I'm a healthy young person I'm just gonna carry on doing what I'm doing" is gonna be in for a rude awaken…
Please stop spreading speculation, there is absolutely no evidence of a more deadly mutated version of virus.
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At a nearly 2% mortality rate even for younger people, I think the odds are high enough to be worried. It's obviously not as deadly as the bubonic plague, but this disease is very infectious...
This is not true. A recent study from China showed the mortality rate for 30-39 year olds to be .2% I believe. And the rate goes down from there as age decreases.
Link to source would be very much appreciated.
Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained
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> I'm French, and we've been lucky so far, but I expect chaos when it's going to start. The government has long lost all political legitimity here, and people absolutely distrust them, so I don't think they will not peacefully comply to government attempt to limit the propagation. Lot of French follows the rules. They will complain (a lot!) about and break them here or there but I expect most real French to mostly fo…
"real French" "the kind [of] people that loot trains" As littlestymaar points out, this sounds an awful lot like dog-whistling.
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