Yes. Yes, they should.
The fact that this went to court is outrageous.
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Um, polymer bills rip too.
only if they're cut. In practice I can tell you how many ripped bills I've dealt with since we've had them. 0.
The plastic money introduced in the UK can rip.
Once it has a small tear, it very easily tears the rest of the way.
Once it is folded it never goes flat again.
They also feel really cheap.
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#303Omg, I still can't believe that was in any doubt. If you are required to be at work, then you should be paid for that time. Just because you aren't "working" does change that the business is requiring you to be there. If nothing else this should push them to make leaving work not take 20- 45 minutes. WTF. How does anyone think it's acceptable to [funcitonally] detain people.
Clearly someone thought it was unfair enough to take Apple to court over it. Workers rights has always been a struggle but this sort of behavior has been trending up over the last 20 years. From the "permatemp" jobs to the new no benefits "gig economy" it's worrying. I'm and experienced software developer and even I have seen this sort of thing. I worked for a company out of San Jose. I was hired full-time with benef…
Hourly at "No Pay" how exactly does that work.
Presumably now any noncompete(etc) are void as your employer has frustrated they contract
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That is way unfair to the company, when you will have certain people who are 'happy' to travel 1.5 hours each way. This seems insane to me, but there are plenty of people who do this and see no issue at all. How would a company hire local anyway, by rejecting candidates who live to far away? What if they promise to move, but don't end up doing it? > Work with cities to reduce congestion? The only real working way to…
> The only real working way to do that is to ask them to introduce a congestion charge, which I am all for. Works really well where it was pioneered (in Singapore) and also seems to do an OK job in London. I suspect the Brits ain't as ruthless in applying orthodox economics in general, so they don't solve their problems nearly as well including their congestion problems.
There have been multiple other UK cities with proposals for congestion charges which have been rejected. Transport doesn't really work the same way outside of the M25.
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In the minds of the corporate workers that came up with the Apple Store Brand Story, every Apple Store employee is your best friend and will jump at the opportunity to assist you, Apple's most loyal customer, with anything you need. So of course they're not going to make you wait in line like the PC Guy from those ads from 10 years ago would; they will be waiting for you when you walk in, just like Hachikō waited eac…
>ripped $20 bill This is a hilarious problem to anyone who has been using polymer bills for nearly a decade.
Just use cards. They don't tear.
-Scandinavia
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
only if they're cut. In practice I can tell you how many ripped bills I've dealt with since we've had them. 0.
The plastic money introduced in the UK can rip. Once it has a small tear, it very easily tears the rest of the way. Once it is folded it never goes flat again. They also feel really cheap.
> They also feel really cheap.
I thought that at first.
Now the old ones feel really cheap to me. I guess you just get used to it
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#308> Employees are supposed to find a manager or security officer to do the searches after they clock out. Employees estimate that waiting for and undergoing the searches can take five to 20 minutes, or, on busiest days, up to 45 minutes. This also seems to be their process for picking up orders at the store. It's pure chaos, and I find it at least somewhat amusing that at least Apple treats their employees and customer…
Does Apple really have a “process” for picking items up? I ordered a maxed out iMac Pro for around $15,000 and waited nearly a month for it to finally arrive at the store. I got a voice mail and an email instructing me to come pick it up. Only upon driving all the way to the store was I finally informed in person that they “accidentally” gave my iMac Pro to the wrong customer an hour ago who had merely ordered a base…
Of course you were going to buy a $50k computer to a luxury brand but can't find bodyguards.
Which maybe it is even the case; and in that case you probably should think hard about if you are not slowly drifting away from the reality as experienced by the vast majority of other people.
Yep, Apple probably does not care much about your profile as a prospect.
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#309Good. If the company makes you do something, it’s work.
I only wish this would carry to non-California locations and to the service industry in general - when I worked as a waiter in a Rocky Mountain West state, after ending a shift we were not allowed to leave the premises until rolling exactly 100 sets of silverware. If no silverware was available, we would also have to run them through the dishwasher 2-3 times. We additionally had to perform two other "closing" tasks (…
That sounds more like an issue with the tips system. It's one fo the worst things about visiting the USA, combined with taxes not being in the price that is.
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Wow. The only time I ever had to go through something like that was working for Ferraro/TicTac in Brantford during the summer when I was a student. We would have our lunch bags randomly searched as we passed through the outer security gate on our way to parking. Bloody TicTacs. They would leave snacking items or seconds in the break room for people to eat if there were any—just don’t walk off the lot with a half pack…
My brother worked at a Cadbury chocolate factory for a while. They had a "take as much as you want, whenever you want, for personal/immediate family" policy. That was because they discovered that most people, after a week or two of free-for-all binging never wanted to eat another bar of chocolate in their life, and so the company's costs were near zero.
Funny, my mother can't stand chocolate because a relative owned a chocolate shop and spoiled her when she was little.