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How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Turns out it's only required if you already exclusively use FB/Google sign in (I thought it would also apply to your-app-auth+FB+G but I guess not) https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#sig...

Huh, that was not my understanding, and your link goes on to state: > not required if...Your app exclusively uses your company’s own account setup and sign-in systems. So there’s no official guidance on the both/and case?

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Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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> My music is in Spotify and Apple Music, my video is Netflix and Amazon Prime and Apple+ Does Spotify somehow integrate with Apple Music and Netflix with Apple+? Because, if not, your counterargument is just "there's no walled garden because I'm outside it". Spotify, Netflix, Google, Kindle, etc work on both platforms. Apple stuff doesn't. That's the definition of "walled garden", that you can't use Android and stil…

FWIW Apple Music does work on android, reasonably well too. I switched to that when it became apparent that Google Play Music is a dead product, soon to be sent to the glue factory.

Why do people use Apple Music over Spotify?

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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iMessage is backwards compatible with SMS. Are you talking about the unwillingness of users to migrate their chats to WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, etc? That’s not a walled garden - that’s the natural hesitance to leave any comfortable/familiar system that any social media / network effect site/app has. It’s more like a psychological moat. And even the app you want Apple users to migrate to has it.

He's talking about the fact that iMessage only runs on Apple hardware. That's what a walled garden is.

iMessage with macOS works fine on non-Apple hardware. Perhaps you intended to write iOS and the iOS version of iMessage only runs on Apple hardware? Or was it more a point of legality? Or end-user acceptance? Or availability to the general public?

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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FWIW Apple Music does work on android, reasonably well too. I switched to that when it became apparent that Google Play Music is a dead product, soon to be sent to the glue factory.

Why do people use Apple Music over Spotify?

I don't use spotify for a few reasons. Primarily being I can't add my own music to my library and stream it (you kinda can but it's sub-optimal), second being comfort and usability. You can't easily rearrange your play queue in spotify, while apple music and GPM make this quite easy (including "play next" and "play later" for adding to the front and back of the queue). I find radio stations much better on Apple Music and GPM, Spotify's radio stations/algorithm just don't do it for me.

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According to news reports from the time, both Rite Aid and CVS initially supported NFC payments (at least at some locations), then proceeded to disable them shortly after Apple Pay launched: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/25/cvs-disabling-nfc-apple...

CVS, Walmart & many others created CurrentC to avoid the CC merchant fees through a NFC & ACH scheme instead. CurrentC failed by 2016, which is probably when CVS started accepting Google Pay and Apple Pay again.

IIRC, CurrentC was not NFC, it was based on an app with a QR code.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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He's talking about the fact that iMessage only runs on Apple hardware. That's what a walled garden is.

iMessage with macOS works fine on non-Apple hardware. Perhaps you intended to write iOS and the iOS version of iMessage only runs on Apple hardware? Or was it more a point of legality? Or end-user acceptance? Or availability to the general public?

Is there an iMessage app my mom can install on her Android phone? It feels like you're intentionally acting obtuse at this point.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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By default, supporting one means supporting the other, but in practice, several large chain stores deliberately disabled ApplePay specifically at first, hoping to choke it off. That seems to have failed, and I can't remember the last time I saw a place that took contactless payment but not ApplePay, but it was a thing for a while.

Do you know of a source where I can read more about this (particularly about the stores disabling Apple Pay)? I'm interested in learning more. I was under the impression that any terminal that accepted contactless payments would also work with ApplePay.

Yeah, it's all or nothing, they disabled all NFC-based contactless payment just to stop Apple Pay from working.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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I feel like reason you can move is because you haven't put all your eggs in their walled garden, not that they don't have one. I know people who either won't or have regretted switching from an iPhone because they have trouble talking to their friend who only use iMessage. I think Apple is only increasing their walled garden into more areas by expanding into music streaming, TV, etc. You can still use their hardware…

iMessage is the greatest thing to happen to text messaging since text messaging itself. I refuse to use any Facebook owned product to communicate; so, that pretty much only leaves me SMS and iMessage. I think you should be pissed at bottom barrel Android manufacturers putting shitty messaging interfaces on Android phones more than Apple for having a good messaging system.

I have Facebook Messenger, Messages (iMessage), WhatsApp, Signal, Hangouts, Slack & Discord all installed on my iPhone. Why hold back?

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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FWIW Apple Music does work on android, reasonably well too. I switched to that when it became apparent that Google Play Music is a dead product, soon to be sent to the glue factory.

Why do people use Apple Music over Spotify?

Spotify was a hassle when I tried to sign up for an account (I don't recall exactly, it's been a few months, but some sort of technical glitch), and I didn't have enough desire to chase it down just so I could give them my money. So I've stuck with Apple Music because I can't justify to myself or my wife (we have a family plan) how Spotify would be an improvement. I was willing to try it out because my Tesla has a built-in player for Spotify, but I've just been using the Tesla streaming instead (when not Apple Music) and I'm happy with it.
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