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How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by btown »

rudedogg wrote: post #6
jrochkind1 wrote: post #4

> It’s utterly private, where signing in with Google or Facebook is not at all, yet far more convenient than signing up with your email address. What is different in the privacy design of 'sign in with apple'?

> At your first sign in, apps and websites can ask only for your name and email address to set up an account for you. You can use Hide My Email—Apple's private email relay service—to create and share a unique, random email address that forwards to your personal email. That way you can receive useful messages from the app without sharing your personal email address. Only the registered app or site developer can commun…

Interesting - Apple is requiring that you register sending domains as an app developer. So even if your email address database leaks (or you try to sell your user data), only messages that are from your domains and pass SPF/DKIM would be able to send to those addresses. Really smart. I wish Google Oauth would support something like this!

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/signinwithapplejs/...

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by capableweb »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #4

> It’s utterly private, where signing in with Google or Facebook is not at all, yet far more convenient than signing up with your email address. What is different in the privacy design of 'sign in with apple'?

As a application owner, I won't see the users email, instead Apple generates a unique address for each signup. That email also redirects any emails to the users email.

For someone who doesn't like a lot of what Apple does, this is a really nifty feature.

We just started integrating "Sign in with Apple" last week and are about to deploy it. Discovering the shielding of email addresses was a happy discovery, which I haven't seen before.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by ISL »

Dragonai wrote: post #9
jrochkind1 wrote: post #4

> It’s utterly private, where signing in with Google or Facebook is not at all, yet far more convenient than signing up with your email address. What is different in the privacy design of 'sign in with apple'?

Here's a link for ya: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210318 In essence, Apple generates a unique email address through their relay service that forwards to (and thus hides) your actual email address. It was widely considered a pretty major step in the right direction for user privacy.

Sounds like it is good for privacy, unless Apple decides to snoop?

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by ReverseCold »

randyrand wrote: post #10

How does sign in with apple work when switching to android? or using a windows PC?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210318

Sign in with your Apple account basically. It works nowhere near as well as on iOS or other Apple platforms, but I'm surprised they made it work.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by smlacy »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #4

> It’s utterly private, where signing in with Google or Facebook is not at all, yet far more convenient than signing up with your email address. What is different in the privacy design of 'sign in with apple'?

"Utterly private" is a very odd term here.

At the very least, Apple knows which sites you're signing into, and has the unique e-mail addresses used at those sites, and has likely issued the authentication tokens for those sites. I'm not sure what's "utterly private" about this setup.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by capableweb »

randyrand wrote: post #10

How does sign in with apple work when switching to android? or using a windows PC?

You get a username + password dialog to write your Apple ID and password in.

Source: started integrating "Sign in with Apple" last week, I'm the developer and I'm using Ubuntu at work.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by jonlucc »

fetus8 wrote: post #14

I've seen "Sign in with Apple" exactly once since iOS 13 launched. I am kind of surprised it's not being rolled out more widely. The first app I've seen and used it with was Byte (the Vine successor) over this past weekend.

I'm not sure I'd notice if it rolled out to a lot of the apps I use, though. I mostly stay logged in for things that don't require login every use (lastpass, banks, etc).

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by capableweb »

asadlionpk wrote: post #18
randyrand wrote: post #10

How does sign in with apple work when switching to android? or using a windows PC?

it doesn't

Maybe in the future refrain from commenting if A) it's a low-effort post and B) you're not 100% sure of the answer.

Also, if you're not sure, please state that at least.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by corylulu »

smlacy wrote: post #20
Dragonai wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a link for ya: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210318 In essence, Apple generates a unique email address through their relay service that forwards to (and thus hides) your actual email address. It was widely considered a pretty major step in the right direction for user privacy.

How does account recovery work?

If you signed in the Apple, it would be through Apple's recovery process.

Re: How Popular Is “Sign in with Apple”?

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Post by judge2020 »

fetus8 wrote: post #14

I've seen "Sign in with Apple" exactly once since iOS 13 launched. I am kind of surprised it's not being rolled out more widely. The first app I've seen and used it with was Byte (the Vine successor) over this past weekend.

Turns out it's only required if you already exclusively use FB/Google sign in (I thought it would also apply to your-app-auth+FB+G but I guess not) https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#sig...
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