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Yes make no mistake about it. It is difficult for people with h1bs in Facebook and google with high salaries and qualifications. Its deliberate effort. I am not saying its good or bad but the problem do exist.
yea, I've heard of horror stories of decades of wait time to get a green card.. its a horrible move IMO.
I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…
> as it increases the inequality Really?! Speaking about inequality is so hypocritical in this context that it just boils my blood. I could understand if you were having trouble to earn a living. But you can easily live in the Western Europe on even €30k. EASILY! And happily, and stress free. Your kids will get free education, free collage. You will get tons of vacations, 38 hours work week. But no, you want more. Yo…
It certainly contributes to brain drain which helps maintain inequality between countries.
That is, unless there are fiscal transfers to India I'm unaware of to help pay for the educations their government pays for and western employers use...
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You see, now you're making it a problem of nationality. EU membership allows free movement of capital, goods and workforce between EU states with equal rights. Singling out Romania and Poland means you have a personal problem with these nationalities. Don't like it? Vote your country leaving the EU. Oh, and FYI, Romanian tech salaries are some of the highest in EU where new grads can earn €2k NET due to a hot market…
That's still not good enough as compared to Zurich or Amsterdam. Or many other cities. Why stop at tech. Many Romanians and other poor EU immigrants move across Europe for all kind of jobs. I don't think you have thought this through and not realizing or outright ignoring xenophobia in your arguments.
€2k NET monthly in Poland or Romania as a new grad means you can buy a house immediately. How many houses can one newgrad buy in Zurich or Amsterdam?
>Many Romanians and other poor EU immigrants move across Europe for all kind of jobs.
And? What's wrong with that? It's part and parcel of EU membership. Western companies can also come to the East and straight up exploit the population.
Don't like it? Vote to leave the EU?
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By that logic, the US has many unemployed people and many, many people earning low wages in low productivity industries. Why not just train them properly rather than import workers from elsewhere?
I agree. I don't think we should be importing any workers. We have 330 million people and that should be plenty. Importing workers disincentivizes US elites from developing our own local work force. And importing workers hurts the nation that is losing workers. Shouldn't all the indian tech workers be used in india to help india develop? Isn't it morally wrong for a wealthy nation like the US ( or wealthy political e…
And China or India is not going to buy any of your products. Is this how you want it to be?
Globalization predicates that capital and goods are procured from places where they are readily available. It is what the post-WWII world was built on. Global trade may break apart to some extant due to the nationalism resurge, but economies of scale is real and smart businesses will leverage that.
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Don't know why you're being downvoted. If people would look at the property prices in German cities for example they'd get it. Unless you and your partner are very high earners you're priced out of buying anything family worthy in all cities with tech jobs.
Germany is the poster child for controlled rent working well for everybody, to the point where it is more of hassle to buy.
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> Importing people with wages under €50k disincentivizes employers from paying fair wages Why would €42k not a fair wage? Looking at INSEE data, the median salary in France is €38409, 42k-50k to write API endpoints seems fair to me, what do you think would be appropriate?
You made my point. €42k may be a fair wage for writing APIs but it's in no way a skill or a salary you can claim there's a shortage on within the EU workforce like doctors for example, to justify importing external workers. You say you have a shortage for API devs? Then either: 1) pay more at which point you'll be flooded with aplicants and if not then you have a real claim for skill shortage with the government and…
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It's not conventional thinking, but this is how trade works. Most trade treaties now consider the human element too (like in the case of EU, which allows free people movement for employment, just like free goods movement).
>It's not conventional thinking, but this is how trade works. Trading cars for migrant workers is exactly how trade doesn't work. You're talking nonsense here. EU has a trade and migration deal between the EU member states, not with India.
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> as it increases the inequality Really?! Speaking about inequality is so hypocritical in this context that it just boils my blood. I could understand if you were having trouble to earn a living. But you can easily live in the Western Europe on even €30k. EASILY! And happily, and stress free. Your kids will get free education, free collage. You will get tons of vacations, 38 hours work week. But no, you want more. Yo…
>But you can easily live in the Western Europe on even €30k. EASILY! I have trouble supporting a child in Greece, with a gross household income of around 50k. I most certainly do not lead a luxurious life. I shudder to think how this would work out in Western Europe where rents are even higher than the ~500 euro most people pay here for a medium sized apartment.
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You made my point. €42k may be a fair wage for writing APIs but it's in no way a skill or a salary you can claim there's a shortage on within the EU workforce like doctors for example, to justify importing external workers. You say you have a shortage for API devs? Then either: 1) pay more at which point you'll be flooded with aplicants and if not then you have a real claim for skill shortage with the government and…
If there were not a shortage of API devs, salary for programmers wouldn’t have gone through the roof. You can’t just say because there are a couple million programmer there are definitely no shortage of them. The market demand just happened to be higher.