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Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by haspok »

geolgau wrote: post #85
haspok wrote: post #74

How does eOS cope with multiple displays? This is something both Gnome/Unity and KDE suck at. KDE just gets total confused when I connect or disconnect a new display, windows jump all over the place, sometimes they move out of the visible screen area if I switch between hiDPI and non-hiDPI displays, or even just disconnect and then reconnect a UHD monitor. I've seen some reports pointing fingers at Qt as the main cul…

Wait a minute! I use KDE Plasma for at least 2 years constantly and it knows my monitors. I use one at work and one at home and when I plug them it automatically changes resolution and keeps the wallpaper I set for each. Also, got a lot of colleagues switch to Plasma from Gnome for exactly this reason!

Does it keep your windows in place? Resize/move them properly when you switch to a smaller resolution screen then resize/move them back again when you go back to UHD?

I found the situation is worse if I extend my monitor's screen onto the laptop, because when I unplug the monitor and plug it back again, all hell breaks loose.

(This with the latest KDE that Ubuntu 19.10 has)

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by haspok »

asjw wrote: post #81
haspok wrote: post #74

How does eOS cope with multiple displays? This is something both Gnome/Unity and KDE suck at. KDE just gets total confused when I connect or disconnect a new display, windows jump all over the place, sometimes they move out of the visible screen area if I switch between hiDPI and non-hiDPI displays, or even just disconnect and then reconnect a UHD monitor. I've seen some reports pointing fingers at Qt as the main cul…

Strange, because I use plasma (and XFCE before that) and apart some minor issue with scaling it works without problems on a 4k laptop monitor plus 2 external HiDpi monitors Display port works better than HDMI though

I'm on USB-C -> DisplayPort. This is the only way that my laptop and monitor support UHD @ 60Hz.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by loudmax »

Theizestooke wrote: post #70
kuon wrote: post #64

While I use i3 on archlinux, I think elementary OS looks great and is a great alternative for less tech savvy users. I am very grateful to the elementary OS community for it existence. One other alternative could be Cinnamon.

Ease of use and UI preferences have nothing to do with tech saviness.

They absolutely do. If you're tech savvy, they're optional. If you're not, or not interested in learning this stuff, they're required.

You can absolutely be tech savvy and prefer the ease of use of Elementary OS's default options. But the converse is not true. You cannot be uninterested in tech and have a good experience running i3 on Arch Linux.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by fbnlsr »

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

As a mac user and web developper, I really appreciate the attention to detail elementary tries to put into their UI/UX.

I'm not very found of Mac OS, and my next machine is most probably going to be a Thinkpad. I've tried several distros on VMs on my Windows PC, including Debian, Mint, Arch, MX Linux, and elementary. Out of all these, the two I liked the most were MX Linux and Elementary. I think I'm going to stick to Elementary though as it feels more premium and I like the slow update pace.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by toyg »

saagarjha wrote: post #54
toyg wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are going to contribute to a Linux Desktop Environment, you are not the target audience for Elementary. Elementary wants to be “the Apple of Linux”, to attract less-technical users and switchers from other OSes. Their development philosophy is similarly top-down: someone sets a “vision” and a small group of people gets to implement it. If you are a coder and you value bottom-up development, you should really l…

https://elementary.io/get-involved

Yep, that page is perfectly ordered by priority: funding, free labour for annoying tasks, and only towards the end, if you really really have to, you can give us a hand under the hood or even (dead last! Why are you still here?!?) help with design.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by haspok »

nkkollaw wrote: post #58
als0 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder from time to time why Elementary can’t be an installable package rather than an OS...

It is: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:elementary-os/stable && sudo apt install elementary-desktop Then, select elementary when you log in.

This did not work to me - I just got kicked back to the login screen. It changed my background picture though :)

Also tried running eOS in VirtualBox - after installing and reboot all I get is a black screen. I can get the live version running though, so not great, not terrible!

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by FeloniousHam »

eptcyka wrote: post #67
saintPirelli wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just last week I wrote a blog post about installing eOS on my SO's parents PC. They are not technical at all yet they have had (close to) no problem with switching from Windows to Linux thanks to eOS.

I have the exact opposite experience - the microphone doesn't work, everything is incredibly slow, my SO is buying a Windows 10 licence this christmas. It's a shame, the user was just fine with Cinnamon on Debian 5 years ago, but that machine and software is no longer good enough.

Just FYI, if you have to buy Windows, you can get a working license key from eBay for <$5 (I've used three different keys from different sellers with no issues).

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by ripdog »

sparkling wrote: post #50

I've been using Elementary as my main OS for ~4 years now. No complaints. Everything runs smooth and nice. However, since they build on the latest Ubuntu LTS release the Kernel is slighlty outdated and may not support the latest hardware. This can be fixed easily using a little tool called "ukuu" that will install a newer kernel for you https://github.com/teejee2008/ukuu

What a spectacular hack! Instead of going around your package manager in such a spectacular fashion, why not just switch to a distro which provides an up-to-date kernel along with associated packages. For example, how does this program handle proprietary Nvidia drivers?

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by m-p-3 »

eptcyka wrote: post #67
saintPirelli wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just last week I wrote a blog post about installing eOS on my SO's parents PC. They are not technical at all yet they have had (close to) no problem with switching from Windows to Linux thanks to eOS.

I have the exact opposite experience - the microphone doesn't work, everything is incredibly slow, my SO is buying a Windows 10 licence this christmas. It's a shame, the user was just fine with Cinnamon on Debian 5 years ago, but that machine and software is no longer good enough.

If you can get a hold on a Windows 7 or 8 license, you can still upgrade it for free to Windows 10.

Might be worth it if they're heavily discounted.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by 1Y3 »

I love the idea of having a Linux distro that emulates macOS, but I see no point in copying only the vague look, when it still differs in basic functionality, like using different keyboard shortcuts. I don’t understand why (based on semi-thorough googling in the past) it is not possible to change all shortcuts to be like macOS (cmd-c instead of ctrl-c etc.)
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