Elementary OS 5.1 Hera • Hacker News Board

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by als0 » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:08 AM UTC

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

I do wonder from time to time why Elementary can’t be an installable package rather than an OS...

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by amedvednikov » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:15 AM UTC

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

I think this can be said about almost every distribution out of ~600:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Di...

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:37 AM UTC

mosselman wrote: post #48

How useful is Elementary OS for people who are more familiar with technology and things like Ubuntu? Would I be able to install Nvidia drivers and CUDA, build my own ffmpeg binaries, etc? or is it more aimed at installing on machines for non-technical people?

Elementary OS is Ubuntu LTS. You can do what you'd do on Ubuntu just fine. (I use it exclusively for technical work, for example.)

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:39 AM UTC

toyg wrote: post #35

m0zg wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because most people aren't going to learn yet another language for the privilege of being able to contribute to something.

If you are going to contribute to a Linux Desktop Environment, you are not the target audience for Elementary. Elementary wants to be “the Apple of Linux”, to attract less-technical users and switchers from other OSes. Their development philosophy is similarly top-down: someone sets a “vision” and a small group of people gets to implement it. If you are a coder and you value bottom-up development, you should really l…

https://elementary.io/get-involved

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by saagarjha » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:42 AM UTC

batterystd wrote: post #46

I thought this was the Android-on-desktop? What is that called?

Perhaps you're thinking of (the now discontinued, and unrelated) Remix OS?

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by jacobush » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:43 AM UTC

firemelt wrote: post #16

I hope the ui not built with vala

I am sad they didn't decide to build it with Objective C. It would have made sense given Objective C could work well with GTK, and Apples devs would have felt half at home. Swift would be cool nowadays. https://rhx.github.io/SwiftGtk/

New apps in the Pantheon system could I guess be written in any language.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by sparkling » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:47 AM UTC

mangix wrote: post #3

I love elementaryOS. Except for the kernel. That thing receives no updates.

You can easily update using one of the Kernal sfor the upstream Uubuntu release using this tool: https://github.com/teejee2008/ukuu

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by nkkollaw » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:49 AM UTC

als0 wrote: post #51

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

I do wonder from time to time why Elementary can’t be an installable package rather than an OS...

It is:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:elementary-os/stable && sudo apt install elementary-desktop

Then, select elementary when you log in.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by stOneskull » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:56 AM UTC

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

I think it's worse than other Ubuntu distros as they lock it down "for my own safety". But for parents and other people not too good with computers it's a good windows alternative

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by hjek » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

als0 wrote: post #51

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

I do wonder from time to time why Elementary can’t be an installable package rather than an OS...

It is. On Fedora you can do

    sudo dnf group install 'pantheon desktop'