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Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by kick »

whalesalad wrote: post #17
ilovecaching wrote: post #7

I think Elementary should have focused on just shipping Pantheon as their end product. GNOME has had issues not only in the performance department, but it's also a very different type of minimalism for a DE that's supposed to be the mainstream pick for normal users. Elementary has adopted a far more conventional DE that feels as simple as GNOME, but far more usable. But I'm never going to use Elementary over Ubuntu o…

You’re not wrong. It’s clear that their passion lies in the user experience and specifically look and feel.

He is wrong. They shouldn't have focused on throwing a layer on top of a bloated base-image. They wanted cohesion, and cohesion doesn't come from Canonical or Red Hat.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by leppr »

_bxg1 wrote: post #12

Every workstation in my office runs Elementary. Around half of our employees came to the company with little or no prior technical experience, and it's worked out pretty well.

Would be interesting to know what kind of work is done on these machines.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by jonny383 »

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS.

I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows 98, and worst of all, functionally no better than Ubuntu. What purpose doe s this actually serve if it's neither aesthetics nor functionality?

I would feel a lot safer recommending either Ubuntu or Linux Mint...

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by asveikau »

ilovecaching wrote: post #7

I think Elementary should have focused on just shipping Pantheon as their end product. GNOME has had issues not only in the performance department, but it's also a very different type of minimalism for a DE that's supposed to be the mainstream pick for normal users. Elementary has adopted a far more conventional DE that feels as simple as GNOME, but far more usable. But I'm never going to use Elementary over Ubuntu o…

Since you mention the day-to-day for programmers, what are you missing?

For me, I consider this essential: terminal emulator, editor, compiler and related stuff, browser.

All of that is independent of your desktop environment. I personally don't use any gnome or similar, just use a normal WM like its the 90s, with xterm as a very important piece.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by jstewartmobile »

benbenolson wrote: post #15
jstewartmobile wrote: post #13

These "blah-OS" posts are so disappointing. You click--hoping for some new take on what an operating system should be--only to discover yet another half-assed linux distro.

This is quite a long-running project, and has tens of thousands of man-hours invested in it. Yet you, taking several seconds to post an Internet comment, declare it a "half-assed Linux distro," without even having properly read the website. The Elementary OS project develops many of their own applications, have multiple custom themes, does relentless work ensuring available packages are stable and usable for each rel…

Totally a valid criticism.

Elementary is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian, which is based on Linux. Most of the value in that chain is the work of others.

Last I checked, debian.org & kernel.org don't have a "Pay What You Want" button above the fold.

Debian is awesome. Linux is awesome. I'm not going to tip my hat to some guy putting skins on Debian and charging for it.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by RussianCow »

jstewartmobile wrote: post #25
benbenolson wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is quite a long-running project, and has tens of thousands of man-hours invested in it. Yet you, taking several seconds to post an Internet comment, declare it a "half-assed Linux distro," without even having properly read the website. The Elementary OS project develops many of their own applications, have multiple custom themes, does relentless work ensuring available packages are stable and usable for each rel…

Totally a valid criticism. Elementary is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian, which is based on Linux. Most of the value in that chain is the work of others. Last I checked, debian.org & kernel.org don't have a " Pay What You Want " button above the fold. Debian is awesome. Linux is awesome. I'm not going to tip my hat to some guy putting skins on Debian and charging for it.

Everything is ultimately built on the work of others. Do you call Brave or Vivaldi "half-assed" because they didn't write their own browser engine from scratch?

The fact that they didn't start at zero doesn't make their contribution any less meaningful.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by alexis_fr »

mushufasa wrote: post #4
fouc wrote: post #2

So Elementary OS is essentially what Redhat Linux used to advertise itself as, but never quite was? A comprehensive, integrated desktop OS built on GNU/Linux?

pop! shares dna with elementary (same people worked on both) and probably is closer to that definition. E.g. backed by a company with actual customer support. Different aesthetics though.

It’s worth developing: Pop! is the fork of Elementary by System76, which is known for high-quality open-source laptops/desktops. I have never tried either so I can’t assess the quality. From the screenshots I have seen, it remains Linux, so not as smooth as macOS.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by m0zg »

aksx wrote: post #19
firemelt wrote: post #16

I hope the ui not built with vala

Why do you hope so? Vala is a decent language which let's users build Gtk applications easily.

Because most people aren't going to learn yet another language for the privilege of being able to contribute to something.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by saagarjha »

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

It’s nicer to use.
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