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The app has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It is used to coordinate a thousand or so semi drunk teens who clash with police, burn trash containers, block airport and highways for fun. Those who wanted to express their dis-/agreement with gothernment position had several half a million people peaceful protests.
Whats embarassing here is that Spain now joins the likes of China and Russia regardless of whom in the government sent the request , at least in the context of government takedowns. https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/ This is quite shameful.
It not the government but the judicial authorities, we have distribution of power. It's embarrassing that the title is intentionally misleading.
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It's similar to Brexit. No matter what the government does, 50% of people will be utterly pissed off. But the biggest problem is that, unlike the UK where Scotland was allowed to hold a proper referendum in 2014, the Spanish government is not only not allowing holding a real referendum that would settle the issue for the next few years, but also prosecuting those responsible for the 2017 referendum with extremely har…
Ok lets break this down. Its not similar to Brexit, United kingdom is a union of different countries, Spain is a single country. The UK allowed a referendum because it has to. Spain voted its constitution in 1978, that means most of the voters are still alive and it got ratified in every community including Barcelona. So there are people protesting now that the constitution does not imminently allow a referendum that…
You mean the same vote where people could chose whether to apply that constitution or continue living in a dictatorship? Ah yes, if that's not democracy I don't know what is!
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I must have missed something. What are those two legal referendums that you speak of? Also, wouldn't the reasons for independence be up to the citizens? You say there have none...
Check referendum on the dates: 9N-2014, 25N-2015, and many others Wikipedia have an extense article about the times they go to vote freely: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceso_soberanista_de_Catalu%...
The 9N consultation came out with what, 80% support for independence?
In both cases due to an ongoing investigation, not based on any conviction.
It was a warrant issued by a Spanish court that Github legally had to comply with. You can be angry at the court for issuing such a warrant but you can't be angry at Github for complying. They are not above the law, even if they may disagree with it.
US companies have no legal obligation to comply with a Spanish court order. A MLAT must be arranged and approved before US companies have a legal obligation. GitHub's compliance with the court order was voluntarily and discretionary; just like how if the North Korea courts told me to shut down my site, you have every right to say no.
Spanish telecommunications operators also blocked access to the Tsunami Democràtic website a few days ago. In both cases due to an ongoing investigation, not based on any conviction.
Not that Spanish courts are to be trusted on matters like this, but still...
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> We must remember that Catalonia has already held two legal referendums, where the result has been a refusal of the Catalan people to leave Spain or Independence That's not true, I think you are confusing Catalonia with Scotland. Preciselly one of the main issues is that a part o Catalonian society (I would say a big one, from both sides, independentist and non independentists) wants a referndum, but Spain refuses t…
Catalonia society already voted many times, and the results were very clear, with no support to independence. You can translate from here all the times they did: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceso_soberanista_de_Catalu%...
As I said in my previous comment, there haven`t been any referendums about independence in Spain (I live in Spain so I think I know about what I'm talking), basically because the spanish goverment doesn't want to, and on the other hand, the so called "rigth to choose or decide" with a referendum is one of the things Catalonians (and also Basks) want.