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Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by mmtml »

demarq wrote: post #8

A) A little late now, since as is stated in the letter people are already mirroring the repo B) can the app really be spreading that fast, if people are having to download it from github, and override their devices security settings to install it? Also the words "serious public disorder" send chills down my spine for some reason. It sounds like it's right out of some dystopian movie.

The app is spreading fast because it was in google play (if I recall correctly) before being taken down. Also there are many telegram groups that people use to learn about how to download and install it

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by ahje »

demarq wrote: post #8

A) A little late now, since as is stated in the letter people are already mirroring the repo B) can the app really be spreading that fast, if people are having to download it from github, and override their devices security settings to install it? Also the words "serious public disorder" send chills down my spine for some reason. It sounds like it's right out of some dystopian movie.

> can the app really be spreading that fast, if people are having to download it from github, and override their devices security settings to install it?

I suspect widespread public dissent does require quite a lot of motivation. Sending an APK file over Bluetooth or a web link is most likely not that much of a hassle in that situation.

> Also the words "serious public disorder" send chills down my spine for some reason. It sounds like it's right out of some dystopian movie.

Yeah, it's outright scary, and the fact that the local news outlets here barely mentions it doesn't make that feeling any better. I'm sure there's a rational explanation but it still feels... disturbing...

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by jarfil »

demarq wrote: post #8

A) A little late now, since as is stated in the letter people are already mirroring the repo B) can the app really be spreading that fast, if people are having to download it from github, and override their devices security settings to install it? Also the words "serious public disorder" send chills down my spine for some reason. It sounds like it's right out of some dystopian movie.

It means masked individuals breaking sidewalks with a mace to make rubble which they can put in a stolen supermarket cart to supply their friends at the front line made from burning trash from where they can safely hurl stones, fireworks and incendiary devices at the cops, while other groups use apps like this to know where they can safely go to build new burning trash front lines or rebuild the ones some neighbor might have extinguished.

Whether one agrees or not with the demands, both HK and Barcelona are serious, public, and the opposite of order.

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by pmarin »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #14

Whats embarassing here is that Spain now joins the likes of China and Russia regardless of whom in the government sent the request , at least in the context of government takedowns. https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/ This is quite shameful.

It not the government but the judicial authorities, we have distribution of power. It's embarrassing that the title is intentionally misleading.

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by kolanos »

pmarin wrote: post #12

The title is intentionally misleading. It's not the government but the judicial authorities, in Spain we have distribution of power. From the take down notice: > In Spain, judicial authorities are responsible for the supervision and control of websites in order to prevent the dissemination of criminal content as it is specified in the article 35 of our Law 34/2002 and the article 13 of our Criminal Procedure Code.

How is a judicial authority not a part of the government?

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by ricardbejarano »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #7
justinclift wrote: post #3

Not 100% sure of the repo name, as it's not displayed in the document. At a guess this is the one, and it still seems to be on GitHub: https://github.com/tsunamidemocratic/tsunamidemocratic.githu... The GitHub pages hosted website still seems to be online too: https://tsunamidemocratic.github.io Perhaps GitHub is publishing the request, but isn't complying with the takedown?

Anyone in Spain got any context on TD and the current political context?

I'd rather not to take anyone on Spain very seriously about this, as this is a very "with me or against me" kind of problem, and practically everyone has a strong opinion.

Everyone will tell you their side of the story, with half-truths and euphemisms wherever they need them.

Source: I'm Spanish, currently living in Barcelona.

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by giancarlostoro »

pmarin wrote: post #24
giancarlostoro wrote: post #14

Whats embarassing here is that Spain now joins the likes of China and Russia regardless of whom in the government sent the request , at least in the context of government takedowns. https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/ This is quite shameful.

It not the government but the judicial authorities, we have distribution of power. It's embarrassing that the title is intentionally misleading.

I specifically said regardless of the branch (I wrote regardless of whom) of government it is embarassing. A free people should have the right to protest. If this is aiding terrorism that is a whole other boat.

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by ahbyb »

kolanos wrote: post #25
pmarin wrote: post #12

The title is intentionally misleading. It's not the government but the judicial authorities, in Spain we have distribution of power. From the take down notice: > In Spain, judicial authorities are responsible for the supervision and control of websites in order to prevent the dissemination of criminal content as it is specified in the article 35 of our Law 34/2002 and the article 13 of our Criminal Procedure Code.

How is a judicial authority not a part of the government?

Seems like an American point of view to see it like that. The government does not control what the judges rule, that's what it means.

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by komarrian »

pmarin wrote: post #24
giancarlostoro wrote: post #14

Whats embarassing here is that Spain now joins the likes of China and Russia regardless of whom in the government sent the request , at least in the context of government takedowns. https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/ This is quite shameful.

It not the government but the judicial authorities, we have distribution of power. It's embarrassing that the title is intentionally misleading.

The judiciary is part of the goverment and as you can see in the letters from China and Russia the Goverment is asking GitHub to takedown repos referencing laws too. That does not make said laws moral or just.

Re: Spanish government orders GitHub to take down Tsunami Democràtic repository

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Post by ahbyb »

demarq wrote: post #8

A) A little late now, since as is stated in the letter people are already mirroring the repo B) can the app really be spreading that fast, if people are having to download it from github, and override their devices security settings to install it? Also the words "serious public disorder" send chills down my spine for some reason. It sounds like it's right out of some dystopian movie.

https://www.google.com/search?q=disturbios+barcelona&tbm=isc...

If this is not a serious public disorder, you'll tell me what it is.

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