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iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #128

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Cameras and chips are identical, however the Pro gives you the Telephoto lens. (That’s the “third” lens on Pro.)

Actually, it’s the ultra wide lens that is unique to the pro.

No, it's the telephoto. The 11 has the ultrawide.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cameras and chips are identical, however the Pro gives you the Telephoto lens. (That’s the “third” lens on Pro.)

Actually, it’s the ultra wide lens that is unique to the pro.

No, briandear is right. The Pro has the telephoto, and the wide and ultrawide, where as the 11 just has the wide and ultrawide.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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I'm not really sure what you are talking about. An advertisement of what? Ultra wide lenses? The author is a photographer who writes about being excited to now have the ability to carry an ultra wide lense - something that has exited in the photography world for decades - as part of his phone. He then write a review about the performance of this lense. Nothing about this is even close to being an advertisement.

To use a word review, I expect at least an attempt to be objective. The article doesn't feel that way at all, even more if you actually shoot at least as a hobby, ie with some APS-C or fullframe. Discussing whether he is just subjectively biased towards Apple or outright paid is already kind of moot point

Reviews are never "objective." They are always a single person's experience with a thing.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #129

How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

The replies to this observation are hilarious. The "article" is as marketingy as it gets. It's blatantly obvious. But noo, "I don't know what you mean", "you sound mad" haha.

The assertion by the original commenter was that this article was an "advertisement" - meaning paid.

While the article may well serve as a function of marketing because some pro photographer got a loner from Apple and wrote up a gushing review. I don't believe the word "advertisement" holds water.

I think this comment said it best: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21016402

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #137

Its amazing to me that the smartphone wars are now just about cameras.... and more broadly content generation. It also amazes me that everyone's is wooed over these iPhone specs. I've had my OnePlus 7T Pro for a few months now. Most of the top-line specs match or beat the new iPhone. Nightscape on the OnePlus is also amazing - takes great low light photos. Seems like iPhone has been chasing some of the more advanced…

What I want to know is whether there are any phone-sized stand-alone cameras that can compete with any of the modern amazing phone cameras.

I love my Pixel 2's camera, it shoots gorgeous pictures, but I'm seriously considering downsizing my phone significantly. I'd love to have a nearly-dumb-phone but... can't give up the camera.

If someone sold a standalone camera that is as portable and as good, I would take it and a dumb-phone in a minute.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Stockholm Syndrome? But yes, it's good that you were able to see it. I find marketing unethical, most people don't even realize that they are being advertised to.

> I find marketing unethical That’s a strange view. Taken to an extreme, that would be a restaurant without an exterior sign, menus, or even a waiter explaining the food. You would literally know nothing about any product or service without marketing. Marketing is the act of “bringing a product to market.” Marketing isn’t advertising. A farmer displaying tomatoes on a table at a farmers market is marketing. A farmer…

>Lying about that product on the other hand..

What if things are not prove able? Like "most secure", but their metric is fastest patching. It's not actually secure, but they have logic.

Technically true, but intentionally misleading.

I don't suggest getting caught up in the Innocence of having a brick and mortar sign. This is not what we worry about.

What do we learn from a beer commercial showing hot girls? Or a tech commercial showing people dancing. These are feelings unrelated to the product.

These specific examples don't scratch the surface. The best marketing, you don't see.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cameras and chips are identical, however the Pro gives you the Telephoto lens. (That’s the “third” lens on Pro.)

Actually, it’s the ultra wide lens that is unique to the pro.

No, you have it backwards - the 11 got the utlra-wide lens as it's second camera.

[1] https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Stockholm Syndrome? But yes, it's good that you were able to see it. I find marketing unethical, most people don't even realize that they are being advertised to.

> I find marketing unethical That’s a strange view. Taken to an extreme, that would be a restaurant without an exterior sign, menus, or even a waiter explaining the food. You would literally know nothing about any product or service without marketing. Marketing is the act of “bringing a product to market.” Marketing isn’t advertising. A farmer displaying tomatoes on a table at a farmers market is marketing. A farmer…

> You would literally know nothing about any product or service without marketing.

We can hardly imagine such bliss.

Pop quiz: does anybody imagine marketing or advertising would exist in a) paradise, b) utopia, c) Heaven?

> A farmer buying billboard space with a photo of his tomatoes is advertising. There isn’t anything unethical about either practice.

Plastering every available surface by a road or in a common area, with adverts is tragedy of the commons material. How dare people litter like that, taking away our collective view of the world and replacing it to their advantage without our consent?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #137

Its amazing to me that the smartphone wars are now just about cameras.... and more broadly content generation. It also amazes me that everyone's is wooed over these iPhone specs. I've had my OnePlus 7T Pro for a few months now. Most of the top-line specs match or beat the new iPhone. Nightscape on the OnePlus is also amazing - takes great low light photos. Seems like iPhone has been chasing some of the more advanced…

What I want to know is whether there are any phone-sized stand-alone cameras that can compete with any of the modern amazing phone cameras. I love my Pixel 2's camera, it shoots gorgeous pictures, but I'm seriously considering downsizing my phone significantly. I'd love to have a nearly-dumb-phone but... can't give up the camera. If someone sold a standalone camera that is as portable and as good, I would take it and…

It's not _quite_ as small but _way_ better than every smart phone camera on the market, the Ricoh GR3.

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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post #86

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I feel for all camera manufacturers. Why isn't there a Canon or Nikon or Sony cloud service where photos are sent to? Why haven't the big camera companies embraced computation in their cameras? Do DSLR bodies even have GPS capabilities for tagging photos? It feels like there's no innovation in the camera space outside of Apple and Google.

Very few DSLR bodies have GPS capability built in. This is kind of stupid because integrating a modern GNSS receiver would have only a trivial impact on size, weight, cost, and battery life. The odd thing is that GPS is somewhat common on much cheaper compact cameras. Some of DSLR manufacturers do offer fragile, awkward GPS accessories that you can plug in externally. And they generally provide some sort of geo-taggi…

It's the one thing I miss having upgraded from a D5300 to a D500. I loved the GPS and not having to rely on SnapBridge.
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