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iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you mean. I understand it to be a review by a professional photographer - but one with an obvious bias towards Apple, as they have been a client of his, he uses their phone's cameras in his work, and he has a book about how to take pictures with their phones. But that does not make it an advertisement, as far as I know, he is not paid by Apple, nor did Apple provide the phone or control what he said…

How did he get hands on a phone that hasn’t been released yet if Apple didn’t provide it?

Of course Apple did provide the phone. it’s not in stores yet.

And of course he gets ‘paid’. If not directly by Apple in dollars, but by Apple in exposure of his name and thus his business. He does this (great) PR piece pre-launch for Apple, we all learn his name, some will want him to be their photographer of choice and thus the cycle closes.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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I feel for the compact camera manufacturers. Smartphones killed the 2/3" sensor market. Now they've killed the 1" sensor market too. Micro 4/3 is stale with no major sensor advancements for years now. What's left, APS-C and up?

I feel for all camera manufacturers. Why isn't there a Canon or Nikon or Sony cloud service where photos are sent to? Why haven't the big camera companies embraced computation in their cameras? Do DSLR bodies even have GPS capabilities for tagging photos? It feels like there's no innovation in the camera space outside of Apple and Google.

The problem is the older camera companies are camera hardware companies first. Software has eaten the world, and the old guard companies struggle in the software department. Sony is probably the best in this regard right now, but it's really a tallest person in the land of midgets. The Nikon software is atrociously bad, and the Sony's is just bad (I've only used Nikon and Sony).

I dream of Apple putting an A13 processor in a Nikon mirrorless body running iOS. Or, somehow attaching my Nikon glass to the end of my iPhone.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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I'm into taking photos to craft an image of reality. Myself. I couldn't care less for any AI crafting it's image of typical reality for me. I think that's quite set for anyone taking pictures for fun vs. admoney/instafame/...

There's still such thing as physically correct image reconstruction, i.e. removing technical limitations via computational means. Super-resolution, focus stacking, HDR (proper one, without fake colors), highlight color preservation (try to photograph light source while preserving color while not underexposing everything around). Basically, make images that are currently possible on $3000+ hardware, on $600 hardware.…

And you can do all of this with an ILC too and will profit from the fact that it has far less technical limitations.

Basically most of the really "cool" applications center around using the electronic shutter which up to 2-3years ago none of the ILC-companies dared to offer for the masses because it has some shortcomings which the "hey I can finally shoot in the dark"-crowd might not notice/care about, but people buying an ILC will, even if they're not technical enough to understand that it's their own problem...

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

The key elements to these photos basically come down to dramatic lighting(dawn/dusk), leading lines(look at the bridge and waterway shots, your eyes are guided to the mountains and the horizon), and the rule of thirds(dividing your image up into quadrants, and keeping important subjects at their intersections). Basic stuff, but as always requires LOTS of practice and experimentation.

And when following the rule of thirds, how many quadrants should one divide their photo into?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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I think the iPhone 11 makes some good advances as outlined in the linked article, but a lot of the pictures didn't particularly wow me at all from a camera capabilities perspective. A bunch of the images at the top of the article are nice, but that is entirely due to the photographer's skill at composing aesthetically pleasing shots and have little to do with the actual capabilities of the iPhone 11. As someone who o…

"As someone who owned the LG G3 years ago, and absolutely loved the wide-angle lens on that phone, most of these pictures would look identical"

They wouldn't look remotely alike. Many of those simple shots are incredibly complex dynamic range scenes were the results are quite spectacular. With a lesser device the results would have been a blah photo, which is the point of the amazing progress that is happening in computational photography and the hardware that feeds it (focus pixels, secondary depth analysis, and sensors that have much better dynamic range than they did -- even current SLRs have much better dynamic range than a few years ago).

As to print outs, almost no one actually prints out anything. Most photography is for social media, your own camera roll, etc.

"As much as everyone loves to hate on DSLRs these days, you are going to get much cleaner images in these light starved environments with a large sensor and good lens."

This is a strawman. No one is hating on DSLRs, and I can't find a single comment claiming that they're superior to DSLRs, beyond in the computational photography realm. But yes, smartphones are good enough that we often leave our DSLR at home, and when we do bring it there are many situations where the smarts of the smartphone yield usable to excellent photos where the DSLR will stumble. All things being equal a larger sensor is ideal, though things get more debatable on the lens side (larger lenses equal a longer focal length equal a much shallower depth of field, which while beneficial for bokeh, in many situations because a serious hindrance rather than benefit).

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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FWIW there are multiple links to reviews with full-size images in these comments.

Ok, just looked at these images: https://daringfireball.net/2019/09/the_iphone_11_and_iphones... in full res and indeed, they are very blurry and the detail loss is still there: look at the hairs of the dog: https://daringfireball.net/misc/2019/09/iphones-11-review/mo... They are all blurry Is it possible to shoot RAW with iPhone?

Yes -- the default camera app doesn't support it, but there are a bunch of third-party apps that can shoot RAW.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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How much better is the Pro camera than regular iPhone 11 camera?

Cameras and chips are identical, however the Pro gives you the Telephoto lens. (That’s the “third” lens on Pro.)

Actually, it’s the ultra wide lens that is unique to the pro.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

The replies to this observation are hilarious. The "article" is as marketingy as it gets. It's blatantly obvious. But noo, "I don't know what you mean", "you sound mad" haha.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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I have the Nikon full frame D850 along with the holy trilogy of lenses (14-24mm + 24-70mm + 70-200mm f2.8 zoom lenses). in 2018, for every picture I took with the D800/850, I took +200 iphone pictures. I still believe there is room for a high caliber camera but I don't want to own it anymore, I just want to rent whenever I need it.

I want a high caliber camera but I never want to have to carry it around with me...

If discouraged by the weight, but not the price, consider a compact Leica (e.g., the Q).
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