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iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by davidgay »

nradov wrote: post #86
criddell wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel for all camera manufacturers. Why isn't there a Canon or Nikon or Sony cloud service where photos are sent to? Why haven't the big camera companies embraced computation in their cameras? Do DSLR bodies even have GPS capabilities for tagging photos? It feels like there's no innovation in the camera space outside of Apple and Google.

Very few DSLR bodies have GPS capability built in. This is kind of stupid because integrating a modern GNSS receiver would have only a trivial impact on size, weight, cost, and battery life. The odd thing is that GPS is somewhat common on much cheaper compact cameras. Some of DSLR manufacturers do offer fragile, awkward GPS accessories that you can plug in externally. And they generally provide some sort of geo-taggi…

> So the ideal solution would probably be for the camera to obtain location data from the phone via Bluetooth.

Which at least Nikon offers. But you have to have the paired device with you, leave the camera in the right mode, etc, etc.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by scott_s »

leesalminen wrote: post #90
scott_s wrote: post #84

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I'm not sure what you mean. I understand it to be a review by a professional photographer - but one with an obvious bias towards Apple, as they have been a client of his, he uses their phone's cameras in his work, and he has a book about how to take pictures with their phones. But that does not make it an advertisement, as far as I know, he is not paid by Apple, nor did Apple provide the phone or control what he said…

How did he get hands on a phone that hasn’t been released yet if Apple didn’t provide it?

That's fair, it may be a provided phone. But then that puts him in a similar situation as any site that has a review for the phone now. You know his relationship with the phone itself and Apple. Consider his review with that perspective - but I still think it's a valid review.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by matwood »

ldrndll wrote: post #89
chadash wrote: post #77

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I moved to a Pixel 3 last year, another phone known for having a good camera. I find that the automated settings take much better pictures than I was able to do before. Am I taking professional level pics? Not even close. But I get excellent everyday photos that are leagues above my previous phone. It sounds like this latest iPhone does even better (although I'm sure the upcoming Pixel 4 will have a few tricks up its…

Yeah, exactly this. I mostly take photos of my kids using Portrait mode on the iPhone. People often comment on how good the photos look, and I’ve done nothing special beyond switch to Portrait mode.

And photo purists complain about portrait mode on the iPhone all the time. For the everyday picture taker, the phones we have in our pockets are amazing.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by lm28469 »

ioulian wrote: post #75

The pictures do look good, the colors are nice and the small image on the page is nice. But I haven't seen any 100% crops or full images. it's there that you'll see that the image is worse than a DSLR or another camera with a big lens and sensor. I can get nice pictures (= vibrant and nice colors) with any camera, what I can't get is a sharp image, with sharp edges. I went to a trip with my Android Phone and DSLR, an…

I mostly thought the same but came to the realisation that the target of these devices are people using instagram, reddit, snapchat, &c. or taking quick snapshots to send to their friends/family. These pictures are made to be consumed and discarded in No one will ever print those in 20x30in and frame them, hence no one cares about edge to edge sharpness or raw files. The "auto" post processing and night mode are the important parts.

> When I take a picture I rather have the real RAW data in the picture instead of processed jpg that I can't control.

afaik you can do that on most smartphones worth taking pictures with.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by criddell »

Kuinox wrote: post #70
criddell wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel for all camera manufacturers. Why isn't there a Canon or Nikon or Sony cloud service where photos are sent to? Why haven't the big camera companies embraced computation in their cameras? Do DSLR bodies even have GPS capabilities for tagging photos? It feels like there's no innovation in the camera space outside of Apple and Google.

My SonyAlpha can do all of that. Except for the gps, but the photos are tagged by the phone, so it's not an issue.

Do they do anything like Apple does with portrait mode where they black out all of the background?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by briandear »

helpPeople wrote: post #45
mewse-hn wrote: post #41

How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

Stockholm Syndrome? But yes, it's good that you were able to see it. I find marketing unethical, most people don't even realize that they are being advertised to.

> I find marketing unethical

That’s a strange view. Taken to an extreme, that would be a restaurant without an exterior sign, menus, or even a waiter explaining the food. You would literally know nothing about any product or service without marketing. Marketing is the act of “bringing a product to market.” Marketing isn’t advertising. A farmer displaying tomatoes on a table at a farmers market is marketing. A farmer buying billboard space with a photo of his tomatoes is advertising. There isn’t anything unethical about either practice.

Communicating about the availability of a product shouldn’t be considered unethical. Lying about that product on the other hand..

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by pavelrub »

CapmCrackaWaka wrote: post #95
pavelrub wrote: post #79

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I'm not really sure what you are talking about. An advertisement of what? Ultra wide lenses? The author is a photographer who writes about being excited to now have the ability to carry an ultra wide lense - something that has exited in the photography world for decades - as part of his phone. He then write a review about the performance of this lense. Nothing about this is even close to being an advertisement.

Sure, and that commercial for Amoxaperacilin I just saw on TV was just a happy family running through a field on a sunny day, with sweet music in the background while they listed off a series of horrific side effects. It wasn't an advertisement either.

What a ridiculous non-argument. What about your advertisement is even remotely similar to the context of the above quote from an iPhone 11 camera review? Pretty much nothing.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by saiya-jin »

pavelrub wrote: post #79
mewse-hn wrote: post #41

How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

I'm not really sure what you are talking about. An advertisement of what? Ultra wide lenses? The author is a photographer who writes about being excited to now have the ability to carry an ultra wide lense - something that has exited in the photography world for decades - as part of his phone. He then write a review about the performance of this lense. Nothing about this is even close to being an advertisement.

To use a word review, I expect at least an attempt to be objective. The article doesn't feel that way at all, even more if you actually shoot at least as a hobby, ie with some APS-C or fullframe.

Discussing whether he is just subjectively biased towards Apple or outright paid is already kind of moot point

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