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iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Beautiful photos, but why is the Exif scrubbed? I would have liked to see details.

By the way, what happens to exif when you upload online (or also fb or instagram)? Does it get removed or can everyone see my location?

It doesn't automatically get removed. Some services will remove some information. Facebook, predictably, uses the info itself but strips it from downloads. https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/what-can-you-tell-fr...

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel for all camera manufacturers. Why isn't there a Canon or Nikon or Sony cloud service where photos are sent to? Why haven't the big camera companies embraced computation in their cameras? Do DSLR bodies even have GPS capabilities for tagging photos? It feels like there's no innovation in the camera space outside of Apple and Google.

What makes you think they haven't embraced computation in their cameras? https://www.sony-asia.com/microsite/assets/cyber-shot/2012h1...

Sony has the best chance of surviving IMHO. My #1 complaint about Sony is how awful they are at naming their stuff.

Leica will survive too, but mostly because they are beautiful things.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

Stockholm Syndrome? But yes, it's good that you were able to see it. I find marketing unethical, most people don't even realize that they are being advertised to.

If it's VERY CLEARLY shown, it's not too bad. But think for a moment if advertising only had access to one font, 1000 characters length of text, including spaces, and at most 15% of the ad real estate for images. Plus a warning sign, reminding everyone that repeated exposure to propaganda can change one's mind, even though one is aware.

:-)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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The pictures do look good, the colors are nice and the small image on the page is nice. But I haven't seen any 100% crops or full images. it's there that you'll see that the image is worse than a DSLR or another camera with a big lens and sensor.

I can get nice pictures (= vibrant and nice colors) with any camera, what I can't get is a sharp image, with sharp edges.

I went to a trip with my Android Phone and DSLR, and my GF has an iPhone 6.

We took pictures with all 3 devices. When I looked at jpg photos from Android phone on my PC, they had all "perfect" (=vibrant and catchy) colors, but when you zoom in, it's all a blurry mess with no detail. The iPhone was nice and sharp (at least much sharper than the android pics). The DSLR was of course the sharpest one.

Now on the android phone, I have a "pro" settings that captures RAW image. And it's incredibly sharp, the colors are bland of course, but the data is there and we can add/process the colors in post. But why is the image so much worse when using JPG.

My idea it that normal jpg has HDR enabled and is being processed too much, thus losing a lot of detail. You don't get that loss when capturing RAW.

What I'm afraid is that the new iPhone dark mode (or even the P30 Pro and other phones with post processing) will also process the images too much and stack them thus losing a lot of detail. When put on instagram or made smaller for Facebook/websites, you won't see the missing details, but the colors will be vibrant and that's "good enough" for most people.

When I take a picture I rather have the real RAW data in the picture instead of processed jpg that I can't control. What do you guys think about the automatic post processing done by your device, that when done incorrectly, you'll lose a perfect picture because the implementation just lost you a lot of detail...

I guess the post processing trend is there because you just can't make a good lens and sensor that small and still have nice results. The phone makers are just trying to fix this with post processing...

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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The photography in these kinds of reviews is amazing, and the camera looks pretty stellar compared to the XS, but I find myself reading them wondering if it will make my pictures any better. I'm a mediocre photographer at best, and I'm certainly not going to be able to capture many images like the ones in this review.

I moved to a Pixel 3 last year, another phone known for having a good camera. I find that the automated settings take much better pictures than I was able to do before. Am I taking professional level pics? Not even close. But I get excellent everyday photos that are leagues above my previous phone. It sounds like this latest iPhone does even better (although I'm sure the upcoming Pixel 4 will have a few tricks up its sleeve as well).

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

DSLR manufacturers already have compact mirrorless to catch up with. Now only if the mirrorless moguls would recognize the potential of ehnancing their comparatively giant APS-C sensors with at least half the computational photography wits of modern camera phones, now that would be magnificent. Also, for me personally, the next waypoint for the phones should be the development of compact telephoto lenses -- it seems…

I’m not sure how it is at APS-C (I use a full frame DSLR) but I don’t think there’s much room in the workflow of a lot people using DSLRs for more computation I’m the camera itself. I know if I want a _great_ picture I - shoot raw. - shoot on manual mode (often still with auto exposure). - put the photo into Lightroom. With a huge sensor and a fast lens there’s no need for a lot of the computational photography phone…

It's exactly about rising the performance of current inexpensive APS-C cameras to the level of professional full-frame models.

As an amateur photographer I'd never take with me a mammoth gear that is some Canon 5D mk3 w/ 70-200 F/4, yet I'm somehow pretty sure that some good processing would allow a compact like Sony a6000 w/ 18-135 F/5.6 get close to its performance in 90% of cases.

The thing is, I sometimes can do that in Lr/Ps, but it's just much more work than I'd like to do for most of the photos.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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How could anyone read this without knowing it's an advertisement: "today I’m just as thrilled to be putting an entirely new Ultra Wide lens in my pocket. It gives us another format to tell the story, another perspective to visualize, and a better rounded tool for doing our best creative work."

I'm not really sure what you are talking about. An advertisement of what? Ultra wide lenses? The author is a photographer who writes about being excited to now have the ability to carry an ultra wide lense - something that has exited in the photography world for decades - as part of his phone. He then write a review about the performance of this lense. Nothing about this is even close to being an advertisement.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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These night mode shots are seriously impressive. This might give DSLR manufacturers something to catch up with.

I'm not a photo guy -- I have like 4 photos on my phone total (one for each of the people I care the most about -- but it seems to me like Apple should just create a DSLR camera. It doesn't seem any more out-of-place for them as the HomePod, the idea of which is to have a bigger device just for listening because there's a physics limit to just using a tiny device for outputting sound. They then combine that with supe…

Why wouldn't Apple want to create the best camera in the world?

To create "the best camera in the world" you have to be really really good at optics, sensor design and signal processing. Apples core strength using very clever software tricks to make pictures that look really good on a computer screen despite bad bad optics and sensors (in an absolute sense).

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