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"Beyond Meat" is the brand name, and I suspect that's perfectly clear to people. No one buying "Land O'Lakes" butter expects to open the box and find a diorama of Minnesota inside. I also suspect people who deem beef burgers "plant-based" on a colloquial level are few and far between.
Assuming I am a person, 'beyond meat' is not perfectly clear to people.
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The "lab-grown" term is [EDIT: sometimes and apparently incorrectly] used for plant-based meat substitutes like Impossible Burger. It probably shouldn't be, but it is.
I have never heard anyone so confused that they can't tell the difference between "animal that was never alive" and "made from vegetable products". This isn't confusing, and I will need evidence to believe that it is "widely used". I don't think I've ever even heard someone attempt to conflate the two before you. But I acknowledge that just because this is completely obvious to me and I've never met someone who was c…
Yes, I understand that there is a difference between grown from meat cells and made from plants with components that make it look and taste more like meat.
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Do you have some reason to believe that meat is healthier, or is this speculation?
The number one reason is that we've eaten red meat for millions of years, literally. Given fake meat is new and I'm not seeing it in stores nearby yet, I'm going to assume a fair comparison will take another decade, after the studies and the meta analysis show up. Until then the burden of proof is not on me ;-)
Eating processed food with seed oils in factories is not.
The market is manipulated because of status games using bad science... it will unravel itself soon.
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> vegans will never be able to get the protein they need to survive There are millions of vegans around the world who can "survive" without meat: they just get their protein from other places.
They're dependent on technological intervention to get the required supplements. It isn't a natural way for humans to persist.
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How long do you suppose vegans could go before they die from lack of protein? A month? A year? 10 years?
They will not literally die but they will not be healthy at all, many of them will likely live less than non-vegans. It is a dangerous lifestyle motivated by poor reasoning.
I'm preparing a large dinner for an organisation at the moment and decided that we'd make the menu vegan/vegetarian (we use a wonderful Italian caterer, so flavour isn't going to be missed). When I mentioned it to some omnivore colleagues, they asked why and I shrugged and said "the Amazon is burning". They shrugged back and said, makes sense. It's not many years since I would have expected complaints at not catering…
Or maybe they realized you are off the cliff and not to be reasoned with? The Amazon burns every year.
I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…
Can you make a clearer, better-cited case for "low cost chains serve meat that could barely even be called meat"? KFC serves (primarily) whole muscle chicken†, and the general US appetite for "dark meat" chicken is so low that we've been accused of "dumping" it on other countries and messing up their markets --- KFC seems to have no trouble sourcing its inputs effectively. KFC's suppliers include all the major chicke…
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18995204
TLDR: "Meat content in the hamburgers ranged from 2.1% to 14.8% (median, 12.1%)."
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No doubt. But until we quantify it throwing out baseless assumptions is ridiculous either way. It can't just be said "Beyond Meat" is better for the environment without any numbers or data to back that up.
Livestock contributes around 15% of the world's greenhouse-gas emissions. Produce fundamentally has a smaller impact, in part due to its relative simplicity. I don't know how much processing is required for these products after-the-fact, but I know that at least one of the recent pivotal innovations was in genetic engineering, not processing.
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My favorite thing was when Wendy's did its "never frozen" campaign. As if freezing was the problem . It's not going to magically last just as long if you don't freeze it, you have to close that gap with more preservatives.
If you're trying to minimize cost, you're better off buying the right quantity of meat to begin with rather than buying preservatives. Freezing is hugely deleterious to ground beef quality. It changes the texture irrevocably. The two major differences between fast food burgers and fast casual burgers are frozen/fresh and cooked in advance/cooked to order. All the more expensive, more lauded burgers like Five Guys, Sh…