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Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Because your purchase is at the mercy of Google continuing to support it. Which they have a horrific track record of.

Ah yes. I remember a Google Play Music product. I still have music on there. Never trusting Google again for these stuff.

Isn't Google play music still around? At least, it's on my phone.

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Tell me a mainstream (for Google scale) service that shut down. Offline Trips, Reader, Inbox, etc do not count. A couple of million users (at max) are just not enough. If bigger things shut down they either have a replacement or they are Google+. And no one complained when that was shut down. Also Stadia has a subscription basis. Cloud gaming is just too important to let Microsoft win. Just like cloud in general. Reg…

> A couple of million users (at max) are just not enough. Are you taking it as self-evident that Stadia will have more than a couple million users? > Also Stadia has a subscription basis. So did fiber.

I believe there is a pretty big untapped market of gamers that are more than casual mobile gamers but not enough so to buy their own hardware. 120.- a year means you‘d have to play for 20 years until you reach the cost of top line gaming hardware. And a subscription doesn‘t depreciate.

Fiber is different I think because of shitty regulation that favors incumbents and the insane cost of financing a physical network.

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I'm guessing this is probably walled garden approach, Stadia without multi-platform functionality, cross play.

I doubt many AAA game Devs are ready to go all-in on Stadia, unless they are getting subsidies from Google so Stadia will compete with the Consoles, and PC elites.

What would be great though is that if a really liked an played a game i played on my Hardware PC/Console, what would be great is that i could simply invite a set friends to play onetime through the cloud anywhere and all the friends would need to do is login to Stadia and get to play instantly through chrome.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Microsoft has been working on xCloud for a lot longer than that. And Microsoft has more cloud data centers than Google around the globe.

While I agree Microsoft is going to be a major and probably the biggest competitor to Stadia, I don't think number or size of data centers makes any difference here. Microsoft has traditionally not been a "cloud" company while as Google has lived it's entire life as one. Google definitely has an advantage here given it's technically their turf. Not saying MS are incapable of delivering cloud workloads but Google defi…

What are you talking about? Microsoft has Azure and before they had that, they had numerous Internet scale services like hotmail. Microsoft has vast experience with building and running internet scale applications. Just like Google has.

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The fact that you have to pay full-price for games AND rely on a cloud service makes this a nonstarter for me. The only way this could work is with a good subscription gaming model like Xbox Game Pass or PS Now. Or you give me a guarantee that I can take my games to another platform once Google inevitably shuts this down.

> once Google inevitably shuts this down

Can you stop with the trolling? The "Google shuts everything down" meme is getting really tiresome, especially when it's mostly false.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Also not sure if it'd just a licensing issue. I think all the games might very well be modded to run on Stadia servers. May be the renders are optimized to send out compressed video over the wire instead of a video output. Totally speculating but I think it's likely that the games need to be integrated into the Stadia platform somehow.

iirc they support games made with certain engines out-of-the-box. Ironically, I think I heard that it's the Unreal Engine (sorry, Epic Games Store...). AC:O and BL3 seem to support that theory.

Neither of those games are UE games, though.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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$10/mo was pretty much the only way they could price the service; however I didn't expect 4k to be the base resolution for the paid service. (thought it would be $10/1080p, $15/4k; having 1080p for free is interesting). Google needs to be more transparent about device support though. The stream highlighted Chromecast Ultra/Android, but not much else (e.g. if there is an iOS client, or compatibility with a base $35 10…

I doubt iOS is going to get access to Stadia. One of the primary perks for going with Android is that you’ll be have access to mobile gaming through Stadia that you can’t get with an Apple device.

Considering that iOS users, on average, pay a lot more for software, games and services, it’d be stupid for Google to ignore a paying customer base. In any case, Google will not ignore iOS, like it hasn’t done so far in a big way.

There are things that were released on iOS first by Google, like the Gboard keyboard, for example. So Google is not at all averse to iOS or in the habit of avoiding it in any way.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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The fact that you have to pay full-price for games AND rely on a cloud service makes this a nonstarter for me. The only way this could work is with a good subscription gaming model like Xbox Game Pass or PS Now. Or you give me a guarantee that I can take my games to another platform once Google inevitably shuts this down.

> once Google inevitably shuts this down Can you stop with the trolling? The "Google shuts everything down" meme is getting really tiresome, especially when it's mostly false.

I’m sorry, but the meme would not exist if it was not a reality. Google has a history of shutting down products that don’t reach a critical mass they find appropriate - regardless of how good the product is, or how essential it is to the users that adopted it. Inbox, anyone?

It is perfectly sensible to be mistrustful of Google services, especially new ones. It’s also pretty disingenuous to accuse someone of trolling when they clearly have been burnt in the past by Google’s practices of decommissioning good products all the time. I myself have used many products that Google arbitrarily decided to decommission. I do not trust any new services they create.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Ah yes. I remember a Google Play Music product. I still have music on there. Never trusting Google again for these stuff.

Isn't Google play music still around? At least, it's on my phone.

It is being decommissioned.
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