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CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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Chazprime wrote: post #53
nickysielicki wrote: post #26

I feel like free speech has never been under such attack. Culturally, we don't care about it, we find offensive content more offensive than censorship of offensive content. Politically, they can censor you completely if they want to by hitting you with an NSL. EFF says that happens 60 times a day. The most hard hitting journalist in the west, Julian Assange, was just put in jail. I'm scared about the future. It's not…

Julian Assange is a journalist? Not sure I agree with that labeling.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

komali2 wrote: post #47
uberman wrote: post #44

Before damming CBS you might want to hear their motive. According to them the 90 second segment was removed because "such a sequence would endanger CBS executives on the ground in China" . If that is the true motive, I personally give them a pass. If this is about preserving safety of employees and not about profit, can anyone condemn them? This article written by a friend of one of the performers in the 90 second an…

If they're concerned about the safety of employees in China over the content they produce, perhaps they should not station employees in China. Unfortunately it's such a big market it's apparent that companies are willing to forego ethics to do business with China, despite the numerous human rights violations.

CBS is an American based company; given its blatant human rights violations, perhaps they should not station employees in their home country?

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Post by lostgame »

swebs wrote: post #51
scohesc wrote: post #18

It's a bit telling when a media giant like CBS can't strike a happy medium by you know - both not censoring it in the US and censoring it in china - instead, choosing to censor the whole thing outright on the entire platform. It's almost like all these American companies are moving en masse to do business in China with the sole purpose of increasing profits every single quarter, irrespective of (and arguably, now enc…

It's also strange how quick people in this very thread are to brush it off and shift the blame. "An authoritarian communist regime is engaging in human rights violations? This is capitalism's fault :^)"

Um, no, this is about American censorship, not the actual issues in China.

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Post by sjg007 »

Chazprime wrote: post #53
nickysielicki wrote: post #26

I feel like free speech has never been under such attack. Culturally, we don't care about it, we find offensive content more offensive than censorship of offensive content. Politically, they can censor you completely if they want to by hitting you with an NSL. EFF says that happens 60 times a day. The most hard hitting journalist in the west, Julian Assange, was just put in jail. I'm scared about the future. It's not…

Julian Assange is a journalist? Not sure I agree with that labeling.

He most definitely is, and has been awarded by his peers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Honours_and_awa...

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Post by unethical_ban »

hedora wrote: post #11
yumraj wrote: post #2

So US media censors US content, containing bits about China censors, due to financial and other unknown reasons, but when it comes to US happenings, good and bad, they want and have complete freedom of press and speech. Oh, the irony.

Add to that the fact that the NYT won’t let me read the story because my browser is in private mode, but regularly runs features about the Chinese surveillance state.

They want to make money, and to limit the number of articles consumed without paying. The way to do that is to have a cookie that tracks it on the client. That is not evil, or for bad ends.

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Post by sureaboutthis »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #68
sureaboutthis wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work in television news (not as a journalist). I remember when the news divisions were not controlled by the other parts of the corporation and were, essentially, an entity unto themselves answering to no one. EDIT: The downvotes are saying news divisions were not so? If that, I think some people need to take a few minutes to learn the history.

I think this was in a time when the news division would be profitable and would this be allowed autonomy.

I don't recall but it has nothing to do with my point.

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Post by spork12 »

thedaemon wrote: post #33
drocer88 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to HN.

Welcome to America.

Indeed, we are in a sort of cold civil war in western culture right now over core beliefs and culture. HN definitely seems to have a collective bias to one side of that.

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Post by Shivetya »

yumraj wrote: post #2

So US media censors US content, containing bits about China censors, due to financial and other unknown reasons, but when it comes to US happenings, good and bad, they want and have complete freedom of press and speech. Oh, the irony.

How is different from companies which tout their the human rights stands, whether it based on sex, religion, or identity, but continue to manufacture product in China for sale in other countries.

it doesn't and it never will till we hold our politicians accountable for not holding China accountable and the only way to do so is with trade restrictions. if not directly on China than any company which chooses to move their manufacturing there.

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Post by kyleblarson »

'Ms. King said that she and her husband initially told CBS that they would quit the show if the song was pulled but that they eventually agreed on inserting a message saying that the company had censored it.'

AKA they want to keep their paycheck.

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Post by monocasa »

api wrote: post #65
nickysielicki wrote: post #26

I feel like free speech has never been under such attack. Culturally, we don't care about it, we find offensive content more offensive than censorship of offensive content. Politically, they can censor you completely if they want to by hitting you with an NSL. EFF says that happens 60 times a day. The most hard hitting journalist in the west, Julian Assange, was just put in jail. I'm scared about the future. It's not…

In the US I seem to be able to find people saying virtually anything. Certain privately owned and operated platforms have kicked off certain voices (as is their right if you believe in property rights), but they've just moved to other platforms that are easy to find. Assange is being charged with a crime, not speech. He deserves a fair trial of course, but what got him in trouble is not merely speaking. I can't think…

Daniel Ellsberg was charged with a crime, not speech too. He only got off because the Nixon administration bungled things so bad that he got a mistrial.
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