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CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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So US media censors US content, containing bits about China censors, due to financial and other unknown reasons, but when it comes to US happenings, good and bad, they want and have complete freedom of press and speech. Oh, the irony.

This story is about the entertainment industry, not the press.

Re: CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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> News corporations know that they must maintain good relations if they want future access. Sometimes that means holding back on things they know would anger a government. This is pretty much the opposite of what I would expect out of a journalist. What good is all that "access" if you're just publishing approved content? Wasn't the relevant quote was something like "Journalism is printing what someone else does not…

journalist /= a news corporation. Reporters act like reporters but often work for massive publicly-traded media companies (CBS). If you want perfect reporting you have to take profit out of the mix, which in turn brings other problems. Don't trust corporations to be the champions of democracy. That isn't their job. Their job is to make money for their owners and we shouldn't criticize them for doing so.

> Their job is to make money for their owners and we shouldn't criticize them for doing so

I've seen this argument before used to defend oil companies and the like. Or a company for not paying taxes. Or lobbying to change the laws. "They're just performing their fiduciary responsibility their shareholders!"

I disagree entirely. The existence of capitalism doesn't give people or companies a free morality pass.

Re: CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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So US media censors US content, containing bits about China censors, due to financial and other unknown reasons, but when it comes to US happenings, good and bad, they want and have complete freedom of press and speech. Oh, the irony.

Add to that the fact that the NYT won’t let me read the story because my browser is in private mode, but regularly runs features about the Chinese surveillance state.

It won't let you read it because you're not signed in correct? I haven't had an issue with private browsing and reading the 5 or so free articles a month that they offer.

Re: CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> News corporations know that they must maintain good relations if they want future access. Sometimes that means holding back on things they know would anger a government. This is pretty much the opposite of what I would expect out of a journalist. What good is all that "access" if you're just publishing approved content? Wasn't the relevant quote was something like "Journalism is printing what someone else does not…

journalist /= a news corporation. Reporters act like reporters but often work for massive publicly-traded media companies (CBS). If you want perfect reporting you have to take profit out of the mix, which in turn brings other problems. Don't trust corporations to be the champions of democracy. That isn't their job. Their job is to make money for their owners and we shouldn't criticize them for doing so.

I used to work in television news (not as a journalist). I remember when the news divisions were not controlled by the other parts of the corporation and were, essentially, an entity unto themselves answering to no one.

EDIT: The downvotes are saying news divisions were not so? If that, I think some people need to take a few minutes to learn the history.

Re: CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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It's a bit telling when a media giant like CBS can't strike a happy medium by you know - both not censoring it in the US and censoring it in china - instead, choosing to censor the whole thing outright on the entire platform. It's almost like all these American companies are moving en masse to do business in China with the sole purpose of increasing profits every single quarter, irrespective of (and arguably, now enc…

Their decision to universally censor the content may have been contractually obligated by the Chinese. Not saying that's definitely the case, but it makes sense. If one version of the content appears on approved channels in China and another uncensored version can be seen via VPN, that certainly wouldn't make the government look good. As far as Americans using China as a means to increase profits, that's capitalism w…

To be fair they should censor any content that would be subversive in India. Then why stop there? Make sure all media is vetted by all nations for moral and political purity.

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No, it was three very specific words in order that, if you typed them here, would result in you being investigated.

Which is exactly the context they were in in the show: a NSA agent watching out for dangerous people online.

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Re: CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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So US media censors US content, containing bits about China censors, due to financial and other unknown reasons, but when it comes to US happenings, good and bad, they want and have complete freedom of press and speech. Oh, the irony.

They want control of their own content and complete freedom from the US government, I don't see how those are competing ideas or ironic.
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