What are the odds this will teach the American left that censorship is not a good thing and lead them to stop demanding Google, Twitter, and Facebook ban every user who wants to reduce immigration? 1%? 0%?
CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship
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#62I don't get why you are acting so surprised. In Capitalism the only point is to make money, that's all there is.
If siding with human rights helps make money they will side with human rights, if genocide helps make even more money they will side with genocide.
As long as Capitalism is the main economic system this will always be only about the profits.
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#63By tolerating China's censorship, The West too starts censoring.
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#64Failure to walk away from the show over this has lost the writers any moral high ground they might have once held.
The same happened to South Park where the network ended up censoring a depiction of Muhammad - well, in the one episode, in an earlier one it was still up. And thankfully they didn't quit, they ran with it because it points out the hypocrisy, double standards, and weird morals that the US networks have.
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#65I feel like free speech has never been under such attack. Culturally, we don't care about it, we find offensive content more offensive than censorship of offensive content. Politically, they can censor you completely if they want to by hitting you with an NSL. EFF says that happens 60 times a day. The most hard hitting journalist in the west, Julian Assange, was just put in jail. I'm scared about the future. It's not…
In the US I seem to be able to find people saying virtually anything. Certain privately owned and operated platforms have kicked off certain voices (as is their right if you believe in property rights), but they've just moved to other platforms that are easy to find.
Assange is being charged with a crime, not speech. He deserves a fair trial of course, but what got him in trouble is not merely speaking.
I can't think of much I could say in the US that would actually get me in legal trouble except for directly threatening or inciting violence against someone.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
It won't let you read it because you're not signed in correct? I haven't had an issue with private browsing and reading the 5 or so free articles a month that they offer.
http://tinypic.com/r/2u5dgyv/9 Ironically, I had to turn off ad block to view it. Does anyone know of a better service like this? [edit: the screenshot is for a different article, but I get the same spy-wall on the one linked above]
Oh, so it was adblock that was the problem. I was confused, since I knew NYT works in incognito mode.
Can you really blame them for blocking Adblock users? They're a business, if you're both not logged in (ie, not a subscriber) and blocking ads, you're preventing them from capturing any revenue. How do you suggest the New York Times stays in business?
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their decision to universally censor the content may have been contractually obligated by the Chinese. Not saying that's definitely the case, but it makes sense. If one version of the content appears on approved channels in China and another uncensored version can be seen via VPN, that certainly wouldn't make the government look good. As far as Americans using China as a means to increase profits, that's capitalism w…
To be fair they should censor any content that would be subversive in India. Then why stop there? Make sure all media is vetted by all nations for moral and political purity.
I completely agree that this sets a bad precedent. I don't think CBS is in the right here. But as long as these companies have financial interests in abandoning values that we've come to rely on in the US, this is going to keep happening.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
journalist /= a news corporation. Reporters act like reporters but often work for massive publicly-traded media companies (CBS). If you want perfect reporting you have to take profit out of the mix, which in turn brings other problems. Don't trust corporations to be the champions of democracy. That isn't their job. Their job is to make money for their owners and we shouldn't criticize them for doing so.
I used to work in television news (not as a journalist). I remember when the news divisions were not controlled by the other parts of the corporation and were, essentially, an entity unto themselves answering to no one. EDIT: The downvotes are saying news divisions were not so? If that, I think some people need to take a few minutes to learn the history.
I think this was in a time when the news division would be profitable and would this be allowed autonomy.
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#70What are the odds this will teach the American left that censorship is not a good thing and lead them to stop demanding Google, Twitter, and Facebook ban every user who wants to reduce immigration? 1%? 0%?
Clearly this is all the same thing, with the same consequences.