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Ironically, Rio de Janeiro is considered one of the safest capitals in Brazil [1]. The absolute numbers are high, but that's a huge city with millions of habitants. I lived there for 27 years in favelas like Rocinha and Santa Marta (when I didn't have money), and in apartments in Botafogo and Flamengo (after making money). I walked on the streets midnight and later. Nothing has ever happened to me. I've never even wi…
Just posting this here in reply to a comment whose thread was flagged. Context is "whose definition of criminal should we use". How about "people openly flaunting assault weapons"? As someone who lived in Rio most of their life, I think that's a good line to draw. Opinions filled with "human rights" concerns from people far removed are probably ethically and morally correct, which is... cute. We're fighting an Urban…
> Opinions filled with "human rights" concerns from people far removed are probably ethically and morally correct, which is... cute. We're fighting an Urban War over here. War is always a good excuse to ignore ethical concerns.
Ironically, Rio de Janeiro is considered one of the safest capitals in Brazil [1]. The absolute numbers are high, but that's a huge city with millions of habitants. I lived there for 27 years in favelas like Rocinha and Santa Marta (when I didn't have money), and in apartments in Botafogo and Flamengo (after making money). I walked on the streets midnight and later. Nothing has ever happened to me. I've never even wi…
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Mine was a Macbook too. It was stolen on that security part where you have to put your personal belongs on the "running machine" (no idea how to call that) and pass through the scanner. The woman that passed before me took my laptop. I thought it was by mistake, but the cameras proved otherwise. Surprisingly or not, nobody cared. I was already hopeless in the airplane (which was late because of it) when this police o…
By the way, would anyone be interested in reading this story? I have the camera recordings with me.
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This might not be a coincidence. Police shooting people without due process isn't an ethical system of justice, but it could be an effective way to decrease the homicide rate. In many places, the most powerful gang can only be matched or beaten by the government. And if the most powerful gang is too difficult to deter from murdering people by using due process, having cops kill them would probably reduce the overall…
When the police shoots people without process on purpose, then they are just the most powerful gang.
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> Why is the Brazilian police officer wrong when he kills someone and why is any other officer in any other country right when he does the same? Who said that? They are wrong in many cases, whether the country. > Mistakes happen it's part of this duty of being the police. Killing urban poor indiscriminately whenever crime is suspected (or even widely overusing open fire even when crime is actually committed), are not…
This is what I'm saying why is Brazil bad in this regard? How is any other place better? I think it's just people wanting to talk bad about something they don't know. Statistics is nothing if you are not living it, statistics can be hidden too, look at how many donators vs organ transplants in China.
In the way that most other places have less butcher cops and less blood-thirsty supporters of them...
And the more police-civilized places (e.g. most of Nordic and Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, etc) have almost zero.
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This might not be a coincidence. Police shooting people without due process isn't an ethical system of justice, but it could be an effective way to decrease the homicide rate. In many places, the most powerful gang can only be matched or beaten by the government. And if the most powerful gang is too difficult to deter from murdering people by using due process, having cops kill them would probably reduce the overall…
When the police shoots people without process on purpose, then they are just the most powerful gang.
Just posting this here in reply to a comment whose thread was flagged. Context is "whose definition of criminal should we use". How about "people openly flaunting assault weapons"? As someone who lived in Rio most of their life, I think that's a good line to draw. Opinions filled with "human rights" concerns from people far removed are probably ethically and morally correct, which is... cute. We're fighting an Urban…
Everything that you said is right, my problem with this kind of policy is that they sell it as the solution, I think that is better to fight organized crime with intelligence instead of with raw force. The weapons and the drugs that finance the traffic do not come from the poor communities, the crime in rio is deep within the society killing the poor that is already marginalized it’s not a soluction. I agree with you…
However on HN the discourse has the exact opposite bias. People have this idea of morality that's based on their conceptions and not directly on what's happening around them.
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This is what I'm saying why is Brazil bad in this regard? How is any other place better? I think it's just people wanting to talk bad about something they don't know. Statistics is nothing if you are not living it, statistics can be hidden too, look at how many donators vs organ transplants in China.
> This is what I'm saying why is Brazil bad in this regard? How is any other place better? In the way that most other places have less butcher cops and less blood-thirsty supporters of them... And the more police-civilized places (e.g. most of Nordic and Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, etc) have almost zero.