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Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Can you confirm the high social status of owning AirPods? You can't even hope to have those with an Android.

AirPods work with Android. Source: just paired mine with a Pixel 3.

Huh, I did not realize that.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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> I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage It's not because Google is doing a bad job, it's because Apple is doing a _great_ job. Apple's framing of iOS as a luxury brand is why the "blue vs. green bubbles" type of sentiment has real impact within younger social circles.

That has nothing to do with why Apple owners prefer blue bubbles. It’s because SMS is unreliable and restrictive. You can’t share files, some carriers truncate messages and send them as multiple messages, media formats are limited, group chats don’t work right, typing indicator doesn’t work, read receipts don’t work, etc. Green bubble does not mean lower status, it means a significantly degraded experience. Some kids…

Isn't there a clear solution in just using a non-sms app available to both Android and iPhone, like Messenger or WhatsApp?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

As another student at another upper-class high school, my experience was different. 99% of people do have iphones, but no one flaunts it as a status symbol, nor do people seem to care what generation of iphone you have. Airpods are more interesting because not that many people have them; they themselves don't grant you any status, but having airpods is an _indicator_ of status.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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It's like a kid getting upset when they don't get the porsche they wanted for their birthday but a second hand car. Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall Porsche experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? ... It's the same thing. She got a functioning smartphone but not the more expensive one she wanted.

It’s not like that at all. It’s not about price. Most kids who prefer iphones would take a $250 iphone SE over a $900 Samsung. Hell, I would even take that deal.

I'd take a $250 SE over a $400 android, definitely, but not over a new samsung galaxy.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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I'm curious how much is the longer product lifespan of iPhones resulting in parents passing their children hand me down iPhones when they upgrade. Androids don't seem to age as well (as an android user) so they're harder to convince a teen to accept one instead of purchasing something entirely new. Unfortunately the poll data here is very scant.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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That has nothing to do with why Apple owners prefer blue bubbles. It’s because SMS is unreliable and restrictive. You can’t share files, some carriers truncate messages and send them as multiple messages, media formats are limited, group chats don’t work right, typing indicator doesn’t work, read receipts don’t work, etc. Green bubble does not mean lower status, it means a significantly degraded experience. Some kids…

Isn't there a clear solution in just using a non-sms app available to both Android and iPhone, like Messenger or WhatsApp?

Imessage comes with ios and is the same as the app you use for sms.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Have you ever actually used a stock Android device? The experience is much much cleaner than iOS. I use an Android phone and an iPad Pro every day, and I am honestly put off browsing the web in the iPad because the experience is just feels 'off'. Disclaimer is that I live in Europe and nobody here uses iMessage. Its mostly FB Messenger or WhatsApp.

> The experience is much much cleaner than iOS. In what way?

Here are a few IMO: - Less or no unremovable apps introduced by carrier/phone manufacturer - UI parallel to current Android stock trend rather than manufacturer's vision - Updates easier to attain since the manufacturer hurdle is less or non-existent

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...

I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist. Besides the fact that Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial. Nothing is possible until it is.

> I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist

And why not? The mythical man-month is getting on 50 years old now and still relevant.

> Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial

That is fair. (And, as per a recent HN post, most should strive not to do what google does, since most don't have to crawl the entire web.)

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