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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by coolreader18 »

saagarjha wrote: post #75
coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

> Speaking of which, the iPhone vs Android debate really boils down to a thinly veiled version of classism. Or maybe people just like iPhones?

See my response to chrisseaton's comment.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

Which phone do you have?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by npunt »

xbmcuser wrote: post #38
npunt wrote: post #31

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Maybe it's a regional thing, as the South was oddly oversampled at 45% of the 8000. I don't hang around teens but do make a point of looking at what tech they're using when I see them, and I've never seen one wearing a smartwatch of any kind. Apple Watch is just getting to the hand-me-down stage so maybe that's it. I totally buy that Apple has a very strong brand with teens, I just don't see smartwatches as being mus…

Apple has sort of a lock in for teens in the US because of its imessages app from what I understand. This is something unique in North America as rest of the counties use messaging apps like whatsapp

For sure iMessage is huge in the US, and teens are at a time in their lives when social inclusion is pretty much #1 on the list of priorities. I buy that argument. It's that Apple Watch is likely only third on the list of purchases after iOS device + wireless headphones, and has much less social inclusion value, and at that point you've spent many teenagers budgets.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by nradov »

aphextron wrote: post #74
nradov wrote: post #30

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By the time Fuschia actually ships as a complete OS, perhaps the industry will have moved on to a new hardware form factor and smartphones will be considered a legacy product. Sort of like how Android was originally designed as an OS for compact cameras and then later pivoted to smartphones.

This is exactly why Fuchsia is a capabilities based OS, designed to run on any device. https://misterbugbuster.com/2018/04/19/fuchsia-os-a-modular-...

Historically attempts to create a modular, universal OS that runs on any hardware haven't ended well. Such projects tend to collapse under their own weight due to scope creep and the resulting software is usually too poorly optimized for any particular hardware to make a compelling product.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by saagarjha »

coolreader18 wrote: post #78
chrisseaton wrote: post #63

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Maybe these people just like iPhones and it's not some big cynical setup?

Perhaps, but somebody in one of my classes had jailbroken his iPhone and was showing off his fancy home screen, which would have been pretty par for the course for a custom Android home screen, and everybody was oohing and ahhing at how cool it was. Really just anecdotal, but I don't think iPhones are more popular purely because they've considered both options and chosen the one they liked more.

But the jailbroken phone comes with iOS and the custom Android home screen doesn't. I'm not seeing your argument here, unless it's "stock iOS isn't flashy" or "jailbreaking is cool".

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by grwthckrmstr »

Fascinating and if you think about it, it's hardly a surprise.

Kids want to be cool in front of their peer groups (I think all of you have experienced that period in your lives, don't bring up yourself as an exception, it's not contributing to the discussion).

Kids want to be part of social clans and groups.

It's hard to dispute the above 2 statements, so the conclusion that iPhones are the preferred choice due to a. Coolness factor b. Everyone else is using it / walled garden / iMessage

is hardly a surprise.

I would love to see the discussion project onwards to the future -- what implications does this have for when these 13 somethings become 23 somethings with a job and have to buy a phone.

Are they going to switch to Android at some point?

Does majority of the growing population get used to iPhone at an early age, which means we will see an uptick in iPhone adoption in the coming decade?

I find these questions far more fascinating.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by saagarjha »

bredren wrote: post #79
coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

Can you confirm the high social status of owning AirPods? You can't even hope to have those with an Android.

AirPods work with Android. Source: just paired mine with a Pixel 3.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by Dylan16807 »

threeseed wrote: post #9
beefsack wrote: post #6

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You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

1) Discount someone from making an opinion based on an assumption. 2) Then in the next sentence. Make an opinion based on an assumption.

Note how sentence 2 does not claim it to be the reason, but offers it as a potential reason.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by Kaveren »

threeseed wrote: post #7
Kaveren wrote: post #5

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I do wonder what the impact of this is. I can't think of any good way you could study it other than surveying people. Does this have a discernible market effect under demographic most vulnerable to social pressure?

People just like to make it sound like it's a really big deal amongst young people. When in fact it's probably just one of dozens of reasons for which they phone they choose. Treating young people like they are less savvy or reasoned about the decisions is always a mistake. Likewise you can't just treat hundreds of millions of people as thought they are one homogenous hivemind.

You don't think it's possible that teenagers place increased weight on what might normally be considered an insignificant difference? And that this has a non-zero market impact?

There's a reason people buy Supreme.

In another comment you refer to "exclusivity" with fashion. Why, then, is it such a ridiculous proposition that the exclusivity of having a blue text message bubble could have an impact as a status symbol, in it of itself?

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