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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by aphextron »

stevenjohns wrote: post #8
matchbok wrote: post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by [deleted] »

threeseed wrote: post #9
beefsack wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

1) Discount someone from making an opinion based on an assumption. 2) Then in the next sentence. Make an opinion based on an assumption.

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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by btian »

Alex3917 wrote: post #13
stevenjohns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

> I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. I mean a better question at this point is perhaps why Apple engineering hasn't been able to implement RCS.

Why should Apple implement RCS?

All the backend is controlled by Google. All the risks, none of the gains.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by khaki54 »

stevenjohns wrote: post #8
matchbok wrote: post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

They do, works in a very similar way

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by millstone »

aphextron wrote: post #21
stevenjohns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

What is it about Fuschia that will improve the messaging situation?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by shdh »

aphextron wrote: post #21
stevenjohns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

Its going to be an up hill battle for Fuchsia

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

threeseed wrote: post #7
Kaveren wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder what the impact of this is. I can't think of any good way you could study it other than surveying people. Does this have a discernible market effect under demographic most vulnerable to social pressure?

People just like to make it sound like it's a really big deal amongst young people. When in fact it's probably just one of dozens of reasons for which they phone they choose. Treating young people like they are less savvy or reasoned about the decisions is always a mistake. Likewise you can't just treat hundreds of millions of people as thought they are one homogenous hivemind.

>Treating young people like they are less savvy or reasoned about the decisions is always a mistake.

I am not sure it is always a mistake. People have made billions of dollars by doing. Look at how sneakers are advertised and sold. On a more sinister note, take a look at the whole Joe Camel cigarette advertising campaign.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by 8bitsrule »

Interesting. How were geographically and socio-economically diverse were these surveys? Were they verified?

It's hard to assess these results without knowing: 1. how many of those teens had any choice; 2. how many teens had an informed choice; 3. how many teens reported having no phone.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by nradov »

aphextron wrote: post #21
stevenjohns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

By the time Fuschia actually ships as a complete OS, perhaps the industry will have moved on to a new hardware form factor and smartphones will be considered a legacy product. Sort of like how Android was originally designed as an OS for compact cameras and then later pivoted to smartphones.
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