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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:37 AM UTC

bredren wrote: post #68

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #58

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Preferring an iPhone is one thing, but the "tears in your eyes" comment from OP makes me think this is 100% a status thing. Also that I remember what is was like being a teenager in the US.

Some of it is status, but I think what would trigger an emotional swell like that is the potential of being embarrassed by having a knock-off communication device--and I think Androids are viewed this way by many teenagers. And you're exposed the moment you reply to a text. There's a great example of what its like to wear the wrong thing in Atlanta Season 2 episode 10, which centers around a Fubu t-shirt.

Actually, your comment just reminded me exactly of that feeling when I was a kid and got a Gobot for a present instead of a Transformer.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by ajayyy » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:38 AM UTC

Definitely not true here in Canada (Ontario). I'd say it's a around 50/50, maybe majority Android.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by bad_good_guy » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:38 AM UTC

matchbok wrote: post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

Have you ever actually used a stock Android device? The experience is much much cleaner than iOS. I use an Android phone and an iPad Pro every day, and I am honestly put off browsing the web in the iPad because the experience is just feels 'off'.

Disclaimer is that I live in Europe and nobody here uses iMessage. Its mostly FB Messenger or WhatsApp.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by aphextron » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:38 AM UTC

nradov wrote: post #30

aphextron wrote: post #21

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Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

By the time Fuschia actually ships as a complete OS, perhaps the industry will have moved on to a new hardware form factor and smartphones will be considered a legacy product. Sort of like how Android was originally designed as an OS for compact cameras and then later pivoted to smartphones.

This is exactly why Fuchsia is a capabilities based OS, designed to run on any device.

https://misterbugbuster.com/2018/04/19/fuchsia-os-a-modular-...

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:41 AM UTC

coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

> Speaking of which, the iPhone vs Android debate really boils down to a thinly veiled version of classism.

Or maybe people just like iPhones?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by lawnchair_larry » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:43 AM UTC

dalore wrote: post #64

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #52

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Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?

It's like a kid getting upset when they don't get the porsche they wanted for their birthday but a second hand car. Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall Porsche experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? ... It's the same thing. She got a functioning smartphone but not the more expensive one she wanted.

It’s not like that at all. It’s not about price. Most kids who prefer iphones would take a $250 iphone SE over a $900 Samsung. Hell, I would even take that deal.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:44 AM UTC

bad_good_guy wrote: post #73

matchbok wrote: post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

Have you ever actually used a stock Android device? The experience is much much cleaner than iOS. I use an Android phone and an iPad Pro every day, and I am honestly put off browsing the web in the iPad because the experience is just feels 'off'. Disclaimer is that I live in Europe and nobody here uses iMessage. Its mostly FB Messenger or WhatsApp.

> The experience is much much cleaner than iOS.

In what way?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by coolreader18 » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:44 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #63

coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

Maybe these people just like iPhones and it's not some big cynical setup?

Perhaps, but somebody in one of my classes had jailbroken his iPhone and was showing off his fancy home screen, which would have been pretty par for the course for a custom Android home screen, and everybody was oohing and ahhing at how cool it was. Really just anecdotal, but I don't think iPhones are more popular purely because they've considered both options and chosen the one they liked more.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by bredren » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:44 AM UTC

coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

Can you confirm the high social status of owning AirPods? You can't even hope to have those with an Android.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by aphextron » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 1:45 AM UTC

hendzen wrote: post #60

aphextron wrote: post #21

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Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...

I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist. Besides the fact that Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial. Nothing is possible until it is.