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Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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blue bubbles vs green bubbles is a real thing

That was a clever move by Apple.

People hate the green bubbles. To see for yourself, just search Twitter for "green bubbles" - https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%22green%20bubbles%2...

https://medium.com/message/its-kind-of-cheesy-being-green-2c...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ugh-green-bubbles-apples-imessa...

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

#62

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

1977 called. They said these aren't the droids you're looking for. ;)

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

#63

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

Maybe these people just like iPhones and it's not some big cynical setup?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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He’s not wrong but the niece isn’t wrong either. Style and being cool matter more to some people than others.

Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?

It's like a kid getting upset when they don't get the porsche they wanted for their birthday but a second hand car.

Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall Porsche experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? ...

It's the same thing. She got a functioning smartphone but not the more expensive one she wanted.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

This is a joke, but the medium, the content and its massive success (660k likes two months ago!) might encapsulate why she had tears in her eyes.

http://vm.tiktok.com/eKpARW/

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

#66
iPhone: overall better quality, better security, better privacy for the regular user who does not want to waste time on getting their phone to work properly on Day 1.

I’ve owned Android, Windows and iOS phones.

I have several friends and relatives who claim their Android phone is better value for money but I notice they spend their time dealing with various issues (hangs, bugs, updates, rooting, etc) which they think costs them nothing. Okay...

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

#67

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>Treating young people like they are less savvy or reasoned about the decisions is always a mistake. I am not sure it is always a mistake. People have made billions of dollars by doing. Look at how sneakers are advertised and sold. On a more sinister note, take a look at the whole Joe Camel cigarette advertising campaign.

Most people who are buying expensive sneakers are not young. And it's nothing to do with advertising and everything to do with fashion, hobby, exclusivity etc. Likewise bringing up cigarette is ridiculous since it ignores the fact that they are highly addictive.

> Likewise bringing up cigarette is ridiculous since it ignores the fact that they are highly addictive.

To be addictive you need to start, and the cigarette companies knew that if you made it out of your teenage years without smoking, there was almost no chance you would start smoking. All of that marketing worked on teenagers specifically due to peer pressure and desire to fit in/be cool. And it's repeating itself with Juul. Virtually no 20+ year old non-smokers wake up one day and think "I want to start a vaping habit."

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?

Preferring an iPhone is one thing, but the "tears in your eyes" comment from OP makes me think this is 100% a status thing. Also that I remember what is was like being a teenager in the US.

Some of it is status, but I think what would trigger an emotional swell like that is the potential of being embarrassed by having a knock-off communication device--and I think Androids are viewed this way by many teenagers. And you're exposed the moment you reply to a text.

There's a great example of what its like to wear the wrong thing in Atlanta Season 2 episode 10, which centers around a Fubu t-shirt.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

> I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage It's not because Google is doing a bad job, it's because Apple is doing a _great_ job. Apple's framing of iOS as a luxury brand is why the "blue vs. green bubbles" type of sentiment has real impact within younger social circles.

That has nothing to do with why Apple owners prefer blue bubbles. It’s because SMS is unreliable and restrictive. You can’t share files, some carriers truncate messages and send them as multiple messages, media formats are limited, group chats don’t work right, typing indicator doesn’t work, read receipts don’t work, etc. Green bubble does not mean lower status, it means a significantly degraded experience.

Some kids may act like those with green bubbles are not part of the in group, but this is done in jest. Kids do that with everything. My generation did it with video game consoles and sports teams. You had Sega people and Nintendo people. Nike vs Adidas. It wasn’t about status.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

#70
post #44

I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

> It's a sweet phone For you .

It's a big phone.
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