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> I don't know if you've heard, but the Chevrolet Bolt has been out for years now, and is also all-electric. Isn't this the car that's being discontinued?
No. If you had done some basic google you'd find out the plug-in hybrid Chevrolet Volt has been discontinued.
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Do the other manufacturers include this in their base price advertisements?
nope, but they also allow me to negotiate. I cannot negotiate with tesla.com Also, 1.2k is a LOT of fee! Boardwalk and Momentum (two large dealerships here in norcal) both try to charge doc fees around $400, not 1.2 kilodollars!
The best (and perhaps only positive) dealership experience I've ever had was when I bought my 1997 Saturn. Saturn was, at the time, no haggle, no negotiation.
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It's cheaper to Tesla if they "deliver" it at their factory. I took delivery of my Tesla at the Fremont factory. was still forced to pay full delivery fee. insane.
Because everybody in a country pays the same price. Just because some people live near by the factory or want to make an event out of it doesn't mean they get it cheaper. I believe all car companies do this (I had to pay a delivery fee when I got my BMW at the factory). Not sure whether it is a law though.
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I always thought it was weird that we negotiate a price with new car purchases. I do negotiate hard on my cars (and on behalf of family) and I hate the process. It's stupid. I'd much rather the manufacturer nominate a fixed price and not allow any negotiation at all. Then the manufacturer would be forced to pick a price that competes with the market. There are only a few things that excite me more about a Model 3 tha…
There are no haggle dealers and have been no haggle brands from time to time. One problem is that the people who like and think of themselves as driving a hard bargain don’t like the inability to do so
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I drove a Model S. None of my cars is a Model S. I remember the “salesperson” talking about how quiet it was as wind noise whistled through the cabin like we were in a Corolla. The A4 I was driving at the time was immensely quieter at highway speeds but I nodded and played along. I’m convinced the aspirational status of Teslas means people who haven’t experienced actual luxury vechicles are buying into the hype that…
I agree with the luxury statement. I tell people that the parts of the car that make it a car are excellent, and the parts of the car that make it luxury need some help. That being said, I've bought two Teslas so far with absolutely no regrets.
More power to you, literally.
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I have a Model S and I used to own several BMWs. Honestly, what luxury does an entry level BMW or Audi even provide ? BMW 3 series is a joke with it 4 cylinder engine, soft handling, and a tiny screen where you have to visit the dealer to get a map update. Teslas are way more luxurious in the sense that they provide a 21st century car.
To the average base model buyer a 4 cyl means nothing when it’s paired with a silky smooth transmission, soft handling is a plus, the “tiny” (very crisp and responsive) screen is modern, and I’ll take wireless CarPlay over Tesla's Bluetooth integration any day. And for the rest of us there’s the 340i which is still only as expensive as what was the only Model 3 you could buy before 2pm today...
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Middlemen help you buy a car from competing dealers. Buying only from Tesla means you can’t negotiate for a better price.
When you buy a laptop from HP, do you negotiate with the web form? If you went into an HP store (assuming there was one), would you negotiate with them there? This doesn't make sense to me.
Thinking about it, my last three laptops were bought with a discount, just by not being afraid to ask for some.
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To the average base model buyer a 4 cyl means nothing when it’s paired with a silky smooth transmission, soft handling is a plus, the “tiny” (very crisp and responsive) screen is modern, and I’ll take wireless CarPlay over Tesla's Bluetooth integration any day. And for the rest of us there’s the 340i which is still only as expensive as what was the only Model 3 you could buy before 2pm today...
Found the BMW 3 series buyer who bought on downpayment. No shame in buyer's regrets. Keep on trucking and downpaying.
Second one of my cars is 4 series, I don’t own a 3 series. And it’s a 440i which is faster and more luxurious than a comparable Model 3. And I can put the roof down when I feel like it.
Third, why did you make an alt for this?
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How do you figure? I've been financing a car at ~3% interest for the past 4 years. My investments have returned triple that over the same period.
> How do you figure? I've been financing a car at ~3% interest for the past 4 years. My investments have returned triple that over the same period Would you be willing to disclose in general terms what you have in your portfolio of investments. Keen to learn.
You could easily achieve similar returns in an S&P 500 index fund.
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It's cheap in NorCal - my friend had a Model 3 delivered by a dude. Literally. A dude drove his car to his house and then called Uber. P.S. by "dude" I meant that the man just drove the car to the owner's place from their Fremont factory (30 min).
How else would you deliver a car? Not sure what point you're trying to make?