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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by lsc »

jakobegger wrote: post #544
sjwright wrote: post #505

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Dealers are stupid and make no sense. I may be a weird consumer but whenever I buy something expensive I always think about the unrelated things my money is paying for. So for example when I visit a car dealership I notice the big land footprint, the shiny offices, and well dressed salespeople—and I think to myself how much of my car purchase is going towards the upkeep of this crap, none of which I like or want. If…

My experience with test drives is that you immediately know if you like the car or not. Reviews have never really made sense to me, most reviewers seem to talk about stuff I just don't care about. The only problem is that dealers usually only have cars with the most popular engines available, so you often can't actually try the car you want to buy...

Interesting. My experience is that if I want some idea of how I'll feel about the car in a year, a test drive of less than a week gives me almost no data.

Personally? yeah, I think renting a car is the way to go, if you want to evaluate how you will feel about the car later. A 20 minute test drive, to me, is like laying on a mattress for 20 minutes in a store and expecting to know what it will feel like to sleep on.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by marvin »

Johnny555 wrote: post #482

I wish they'd just rent them out of their service centers. I'm not likely to buy a car without a chance to drive it first (even if I can return it "free", there's still a lot of time/effort in getting a loan, registration, insurance, etc) But I'd be happy to pay $50/day to rent it for a weekend to give it a good test drive.

Couldn’t you use a regular car rental company for that?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by Maakuth »

united893 wrote: post #437
jeffparsons wrote: post #377

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> "financing for a car" ... "ding your credit score" To my mind the mere fact that someone would borrow money at all to buy _a car_ is a huge red flag against their creditworthiness / financial responsibility. But I keep reading online that people who otherwise seem pretty sensible do this as a matter of course. Is it possible that living in a city with functioning public transport has sheltered me to the point of na…

> ... [to] borrow money to buy _a car_ is a huge red flag ... Hi Jeff Just a polite reminder that a) there's nothing wrong with financing, it's essential to the buildup of the US and b) the average US citizen doesn't have the same income distribution that the average HN reader does. The median price of a car in the us is $35K [1] and the median household income is $59k [2]; For most families in the US the car is abso…

Not to counter you, but why would a low-income household consider buying a new car? A properly maintained ten year old car these days is normally quite reliable and safe.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by Accacin »

hutzlibu wrote: post #265
BoorishBears wrote: post #136

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“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…

"In summary, Tesla is essentially saying “you can’t test drive it but if you don’t like it you can cancel your car search for a few months and ding your credit score for nothing”" Where do they say that? On the site is a big "Test drive" button which goes to https://www.tesla.com/drive which, I asume, will let me test drive a Tesla. Without Buying.

Seems like a US-centric problem, in the UK the 'credit score' is completely worthless and different for each credit agency (there are three main agencies).

Loans, mortgages, etc. are based on your whole credit history, and if you take out a loan it will be marked on your history and when you cancel it within the 14-day cooling off period the credit history will be updated to say it's closed.

Unless you're doing this multiple times in six months or so, it won't affect anything (maybe your credit score might go down a bit when you take out the loan but it goes back up after a few months when it's updated again normally - but a this credit score doesn't mean anything it doesn't matter).

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by Accacin »

pembrook wrote: post #548
elamje wrote: post #450

This thread is like politics - ignoring the amazing fact that an electric vehicle that can travel 220 miles is 35k (where many hybrids and other electric cars are way over that price point), to discuss the nuances of Tesla’s business model and how they market delivery fees etc. Comical. People 10 years ago would say WTF if they knew a high tech, all electric car with self driving ability was even remotely near 40k(in…

I don't know if you've heard, but the Chevrolet Bolt has been out for years now, and is also all-electric. MSRP has been about $30k after the federal tax credit. I'd say its more likely we aren't in awe because the Model 3 has been overpromised and the "mass-market EV" feat has already been accomplished by someone else. Of course, most people are like you in that they don't know that. Because GM is hilariously bad at…

> I don't know if you've heard, but the Chevrolet Bolt has been out for years now, and is also all-electric.

Isn't this the car that's being discontinued?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

JeremyBanks wrote: post #330
smolsky wrote: post #280

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It's cheap in NorCal - my friend had a Model 3 delivered by a dude. Literally. A dude drove his car to his house and then called Uber. P.S. by "dude" I meant that the man just drove the car to the owner's place from their Fremont factory (30 min).

What would it have been if not a dude?

"Welcome to Johnny Cab"

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by Traster »

Accacin wrote: post #555
pembrook wrote: post #548

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I don't know if you've heard, but the Chevrolet Bolt has been out for years now, and is also all-electric. MSRP has been about $30k after the federal tax credit. I'd say its more likely we aren't in awe because the Model 3 has been overpromised and the "mass-market EV" feat has already been accomplished by someone else. Of course, most people are like you in that they don't know that. Because GM is hilariously bad at…

> I don't know if you've heard, but the Chevrolet Bolt has been out for years now, and is also all-electric. Isn't this the car that's being discontinued?

No. If you had done some basic google you'd find out the plug-in hybrid Chevrolet Volt has been discontinued.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by isostatic »

awad wrote: post #479
chrisseaton wrote: post #415

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Put the car on a truck and then drive the truck? Might as well just drive the car?

The beautiful thing about trucks is...you can put _multiple_ cars on the truck.

How many cars do you buy at the same time?!

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Post by jonathankoren »

bagels wrote: post #392
theartfuldodger wrote: post #368

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24,450 is the posted actual cost after normal rebates and credits

A large part of that is "savings on fuel"

Yeah that’s a Tesla trick to make their cars look cheaper than they are. It’s deceptive. When I buy a gasoline power car, I don’t figure the cost of gas into the purchase price of the car.
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